From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, LOTS_OF_MONEY,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id ec2ce315 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 15:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A70E69EDF2; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 01:29:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268B39EDE8; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 01:29:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 03B5B9EDE8; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 01:28:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85A009B5D7 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 01:28:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 172E035E130; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 08:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 08:28:57 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Lawrence Stewart Message-ID: <20180616152857.GC12485@mcvoy.com> References: <20180616134928.1574518C0A7@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] core X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society , Noel Chiappa Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" I was a grad student at UWisc in 1986 and got paid $16K/year. On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 10:34:00AM -0400, Lawrence Stewart wrote: > 5-10K for a grad student seems low for the late ???70s. I was an RA at Stanford then and they paid about $950/month. The loaded cost would have been about twice that. > > My lab had an 11/34 with V7 and we considered ourselves quite well off. > > -L > > > On 2018, Jun 16, at 10:10 AM, Clem Cole wrote: > > > > Thanks, I thought it was about 10 years earlier. It means that the 16 bit systems were definitely the norm and the 32 bit system were well under design and the micros already birthed. That said, as I pointed out in my paper last summer, in 1977, a PDP-11 that was able to run UNIX (11/34 with max memory) ran between $50-150K depending how it was configured and an 11/70 was closer to $250K. To scale, In 2017 dollars, we calculated that comes to $208K/$622K/$1M and as I also pointed out, a graduate researcher in those days cost about $5-$10K per year. > > > > ??? > -- --- Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com http://www.mcvoy.com/lm