From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id cce20aa4 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 22:57:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 14D6AA18D5; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 08:57:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705009EDEA; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 08:57:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 472159EDEA; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 08:57:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E25129EDE8 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 08:57:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 11178) id F121718C0A7; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 18:57:41 -0400 (EDT) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Message-Id: <20180616225741.F121718C0A7@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 18:57:41 -0400 (EDT) From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Subject: Re: [TUHS] core X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" > From: Johnny Billquist > incidentally have 18 data bits, but that is mostly ignored by all > systems. I believe the KS-10 made use of that, though. And maybe the > PDP-15. The 18-bit data thing is a total kludge; they recycled the two bus parity lines as data lines. The first device that I know of that used it is the RK11-E: http://gunkies.org/wiki/RK11_disk_controller#RK11-E which is the same cards as the RK11-D, with a jumper set for 18-bit operation, and a different clock crystal. The other UNIBUS interface that could do this was the RH11 MASSBUS controller. Both were originally done for the PDP-15; they were used with the UC15 Unichannel. The KS10: http://gunkies.org/wiki/KS10 wound up using the 18-bit RH11 hack, but that was many years later. Noel