From: Doug McIlroy <doug@cs.dartmouth.edu>
To: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] core
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 16:11:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201806202011.w5KKBOT5040344@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> (raw)
> > Yet late in his life Forrester told me that the Whirlwind-connected
> > invention he was most proud of was marginal testing
> I'm totally gobsmacked to hear that. Margin testing was
> important, yes, but not even remotely on the same quantum
> level as core.
> In trying to understand why he said that, I can only suppose that he felt that
> core was 'the work of many hands'...and so he only deserved a share of the
> `credit for it.
It is indeed a striking comment. Forrester clearly had grave concerns
about the reliability of such a huge aggregation of electronics. I think
jpl gets to the core of the matter, regardless of national security:
> Whirlwind ... was tube based, and I think there was a tradeoff of speed,
> as determined by power, and tube longevity. Given the purpose, early
> warning of air attack, speed was vital, but so, too, was keeping it alive.
> So a means of finding a "sweet spot" was really a matter of national
> security. I can understand Forrester's pride in that context.
If you extrapolate the rate of replacement of vacuum tubes in a 5-tube
radio to a 5000-tube computer (say nothing of the 50,000-tube machines
for which Whirlwind served as a prototype), computing looks like a
crap shoot. In fact, thanks to the maintenance protocol, Whirlwind
computed reliably--a sine qua non for the nascent industry.
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2018-06-16 22:14 ` Johnny Billquist
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2018-06-17 0:15 ` Clem cole
2018-06-17 1:50 ` Johnny Billquist
2018-06-17 10:33 ` Ronald Natalie
2018-06-20 16:55 ` Paul Winalski
2018-06-20 21:35 ` Johnny Billquist
2018-06-20 22:24 ` Paul Winalski
2018-06-16 13:49 Noel Chiappa
2018-06-16 14:10 ` Clem Cole
2018-06-16 14:34 ` Lawrence Stewart
2018-06-16 15:28 ` Larry McVoy
2018-06-16 14:10 ` Steve Nickolas
2018-06-16 14:13 ` William Pechter
2018-06-16 13:37 Noel Chiappa
2018-06-16 18:59 ` Clem Cole
2018-06-17 12:15 ` Derek Fawcus
2018-06-17 17:33 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-17 19:50 ` Jon Forrest
2018-06-18 14:56 ` Clem Cole
2018-06-18 12:36 ` Tony Finch
2018-06-16 12:58 Doug McIlroy
2018-06-20 11:10 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-06-16 12:51 Noel Chiappa
2018-06-16 13:11 ` Clem cole
2018-06-15 15:25 Noel Chiappa
2018-06-15 23:05 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-06-15 23:22 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-06-16 6:36 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-06-16 19:07 ` Clem Cole
2018-06-18 9:25 ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-06-19 20:45 ` Peter Jeremy
2018-06-19 22:55 ` David Arnold
2018-06-20 5:04 ` Peter Jeremy
2018-06-20 5:41 ` Warner Losh
2018-06-15 11:19 A. P. Garcia
2018-06-15 13:50 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-06-15 14:21 ` Clem Cole
2018-06-15 15:11 ` John P. Linderman
2018-06-15 15:21 ` Larry McVoy
2018-06-16 1:08 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-06-16 2:00 ` Nemo Nusquam
2018-06-16 2:17 ` John P. Linderman
2018-06-16 3:06 ` Clem cole
2018-06-20 10:06 ` Dave Horsfall
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