From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 45ad63ab for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 09:06:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 198B4A1899; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 19:06:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315249EDFB; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 19:06:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 077B39EDFB; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 19:06:21 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 503 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at minnie.tuhs.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 19:06:20 AEST Received: from accordion.employees.org (accordion.employees.org [198.137.202.74]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9CD19EDE4 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 19:06:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: by accordion.employees.org (Postfix, from userid 1736) id 02C7B2D51D4; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 08:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 09:57:56 +0100 From: Derek Fawcus To: TUHS main list Message-ID: <20180626085756.GA96296@accordion.employees.org> References: <20180625161016.C16BA18C082@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <3950d997-d310-7cfc-30bf-237e9d872739@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) Subject: Re: [TUHS] off-topic list X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 05:15:00PM -0400, Clem Cole wrote: > > Wait, are you saying that qmail was written as a replacement for PMDF? Or > > that you used qmail as your replacement for PMDF? > > Unclear - why Borstein does anything in my mind. Bernstein. > Best I can tell he wrote > because he (and a lot of us) disliked sendmail. I think he felt MMDF was > too much of a mess by that point and it was time to start over. He had > already did a replacement for bind. But it would have primarily been a As I recall qmail came before djbdns. I started using qmail in the 90s in its pre 1.0 version because I wanted a SMTP MTA didn't want to use sendmail, and had wasted too much time trying to get my head around MMDF. qmail had the advantage of being small, simple, with easily understood distinct parts, and one could easily extend it - sort of in the tools approach, by plugging bits in to its dataflow pipeline. The code was a bit 'interesting', but not too awkward. DF