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From: Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu>
To: "'Bakul Shah'" <bakul@bitblocks.com>
Cc: 'TUHS' <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] C++ / Kernel
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 16:13:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180824141348.1NLUE%steffen@sdaoden.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180823231413.QeahD%steffen@sdaoden.eu>

Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in <20180823231413.QeahD%steffen@sdaoden.eu>:
 |ron@ronnatalie.com wrote in <151301d43b2f$07881ed0$16985c70$@ronnatalie.\
 |com>:
  ...
 ||This union was right in the middle of the buf struct:
  ...
 ||
 || union {
 ||     caddr_t b_addr;          /* low order core address */
 ||     int      *b_words;               /* words for clearing */
 ||     struct filsys *b_filsys; /* superblocks */
 ||     struct dinode *b_dino;   /* ilist */
 ||     daddr_t *b_daddr;                /* indirect block */
 ||} b_un;
 ||There were a number of other places that did the same thing.   It's
 ||OFFICIALLY now in undefined behavior by the standard (though of course \
 ||that
 ||didn't exist in the BSD days) ,
 ||to store in one element of the union and retrieve it via another. \
 ||  This is
 ||one of the reasons why.
 |
 |Luckily "type punning" is possible.  Ach, what do i know;
 |nonetheless, i think it is a terrible direction that C goes to,
 |now you often need memcpy() to local storage instead of a simple
 |assignment (with a cast) in order to avoid undefined behaviour
 |that allows compilers to do bad things.  On a NetBSD list there
 |was a link to such a story not too long ago, the resulting
 |C standard compliant code was ridiculous, the last string of fun
 |has been screwed out of C.  Unfortunately i have not saved the
 |message, but Christos Zoulas has been the author.

I have found the link in the history of my browser, the story was

  http://pzemtsov.github.io/2016/11/06/bug-story-alignment-on-x86.html

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-24 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-23 14:42 ron
2018-08-23 17:24 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-23 20:21 ` Bakul Shah
2018-08-23 22:17   ` ron
2018-08-23 22:28     ` Nevin Liber
2018-08-23 22:48       ` Clem Cole
2018-08-23 23:14     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-08-24 14:13       ` Steffen Nurpmeso [this message]
2018-08-24 14:32         ` ron
2018-08-24 18:15           ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-08-26 16:34             ` Paul Winalski
2018-08-27 16:31               ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-08-24  1:41     ` Bakul Shah
2018-08-24 10:41       ` Pete Turnbull
2018-08-24 12:17       ` ron
2018-08-24 18:36         ` Bakul Shah
2018-08-24 18:38           ` ron
2018-08-24  1:58     ` Dan Cross
2018-08-24  3:04       ` Clem cole
2018-08-24 14:01         ` Dan Cross
2018-08-24 13:22 ` Derek Fawcus
2018-08-24 16:59   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-08-23 23:29 Noel Chiappa
2018-08-23 23:42 ` ron
2018-08-24  0:30   ` Clem Cole
2018-08-24  2:05     ` Bakul Shah
2018-08-24 12:21     ` ron
2018-08-24  1:27 Noel Chiappa
2018-08-24  2:52 ` Clem cole
2018-08-24  7:30 Paul Ruizendaal

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