From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 656fc10f for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 02:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 25BC1A1CE6; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 12:35:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827609B5D7; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 12:34:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A3A79A19FC; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 12:34:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5775D9B5D7 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 12:34:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id B258735E0B8; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:34:41 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Clem Cole Message-ID: <20180826023441.GG4893@mcvoy.com> References: <20180826003127.GA18905@minnie.tuhs.org> <69e611959cdd9902@orthanc.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Usenix: no official Unix 50th celebration, apparently X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" > BTW: One of the other thing that I socialized was how this community was > always open and inviting to people regardless of sexual orientation, race, > creed etc. There have been disagreements (which Larry can regale you on a > few as I know he holds a certain people responsible for bad things, ushc as > how the Linux community was handled). But I wanted to try to see if we > could get some of the important women, not just the men (i.e. the Systers) > as well as some of the folks from the LGBQ community that were a part. > It's an interesting social history as well as technical one. I want just want to add to this comment Clem. You are spot on in my experience. It's one of the bright spots of our industry, in my opinion (I can imagine that there are people who will disagree, this is just what I've seen). In my experience, nobody cared if you were male, female, gay, lesbian, transgender, whatever, it was all cool if you could figure out this kernel panic, we'll kiss your ass (well, maybe not that but we'll buy dinner at Harry's Hafbrau and that's better than a kiss). I've watched a tech writer go from female to dude to female and nobody cared, she was a good tech writer. I'm sure there are people that will disagree but the world I lived in was super welcoming to people being different, all we cared about was can you do your job. --lm