From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 85b854de for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 23:38:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 20478A1F09; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:38:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0678A1A22; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:38:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 20156A1A22; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:38:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33D83A1A20 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:38:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id E504535E104; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 16:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 16:38:10 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Grant Taylor Message-ID: <20180829233810.GK8423@mcvoy.com> References: <201808280601.w7S61oLM030628@freefriends.org> <20180829032310.GF19128@thunk.org> <20180829043639.GA6691@minnie.tuhs.org> <4bd61529-9c48-bd1a-80d7-d4bc6529fcdc@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> <415707d1-1b53-4042-a289-630f733f5188.maildroid@localhost> <3f239c5d-ea78-6379-c560-9935b856a234@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3f239c5d-ea78-6379-c560-9935b856a234@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Cryptic Unix Commands X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 05:04:48PM -0600, Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote: > On 08/29/2018 04:21 PM, William Pechter wrote: > >Apologized to the customer. IBM demanded a formal Root Cause Analysis for > >the fat finger with recommendations for avoiding the problem in the > >future. I proposed redesigned ascii keyboards where Q and 1 weren't > >adjacent. > > I remember things like that. > > I always liked to admit things like that to the customer. I felt that it > fostered trust. More than once I went to a customer that trusted me and > told them that something was not me and they took me at my word, primarily > because of that established trust. Yep, I'm the same way and I think most good to stellar engineers are the same way. How can you fix your stuff if you are in denial about it being broken. And I agree with you Grant, on the trust building. Customers love it when you are honest.