From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Research UNIX on the AT&T 3B2?
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:58:01 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180830055801.GE5698@eureka.lemis.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEoi9W42uyyfMwa48WAF_iXsv-jtu0jD12U+7Rn=Zt8A8BM1KQ@mail.gmail.com> <20180829142548.GH19128@thunk.org>
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On Wednesday, 29 August 2018 at 10:41:02 -0400, Dan Cross wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:26 AM Theodore Y. Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 03:06:40PM +1000, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>>>> In BSD 4.3 and early Linux (which is when I still was maintaining
>>>> Linux's serial driver) you always had to do:
>>>>
>>>> stty dec < /dev/ttyS0
>>>
>>> Checking mckusick's source distribution, it seems that the -f option
>>> (along with sanity) came in with 4.4BSD. It was in the original
>>> sources imported into FreeBSD. 4.3BSD had such a bizarre syntax that
>>> I suspect whatever you emulated must have come from a later date.
>>
>> BSD 4.4 Lite was released in 1994. (Lite2 was released in 1995.)
>>
>> Linux was started in 1991, and we had a stty from very early on --- by
>> 1992 at the latest.
Right, which is why I wrote
I suspect whatever you emulated must have come from a later date.
In case that wasn't clear, I meant a later date than 4.3BSD.
> I think that Greg is slightly mistaken; `stty` had `-f` documented
> in Net/2 (1991, though of course the entanglements there have been
> discussed), but the option existed in Reno (1990, though it seems to
> be absent from the man page).
No, this is exactly what I suspected, but was too lazy to check up on.
I don't have sources for Tahoe, Reno or Net/2 on my machine, but
FreeBSD 1.0 stty.c has:
static char sccsid[] = "@(#)stty.c 5.28 (Berkeley) 6/5/91";
And it has the -f flag. This was (just) before the very first version
of Linux. My understanding is that FreeBSD 1.0 was primarily derived
from Net/2. Of course, there's no reason to have chosen that version.
Greg
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2018-08-24 15:13 Seth Morabito
2018-08-24 15:23 ` William Cheswick
2018-08-24 16:06 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-24 16:46 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-24 17:54 ` Jon Forrest
2018-08-26 2:22 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-27 15:54 ` Mary Ann Horton
2018-08-27 17:06 ` Seth Morabito
2018-08-27 17:33 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-27 19:59 ` John P. Linderman
2018-08-27 20:27 ` Brad Spencer
2018-08-28 0:24 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-28 0:30 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-28 6:01 ` arnold
2018-08-28 6:11 ` George Michaelson
2018-08-28 6:42 ` arnold
2018-08-28 13:13 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-08-28 22:39 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-29 5:25 ` arnold
2018-08-28 22:33 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-29 0:36 ` Harald Arnesen
2018-08-29 0:46 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-29 5:29 ` [TUHS] SunOS code? arnold
2018-08-29 14:40 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-29 14:41 ` Dan Cross
2018-08-29 14:44 ` William Pechter
2018-08-29 14:46 ` Warner Losh
2018-08-29 14:45 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-29 14:43 ` Warner Losh
2018-08-29 14:45 ` Warner Losh
2018-08-29 14:53 ` Larry McVoy
2018-09-01 11:43 ` Steve Mynott
2018-09-01 13:50 ` Andy Kosela
2018-09-01 14:32 ` Warner Losh
2018-09-04 9:39 ` Andy Kosela
2018-09-01 15:01 ` Larry McVoy
2018-09-01 15:20 ` Warner Losh
2018-09-01 18:24 ` Steve Mynott
2018-09-01 18:38 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-29 23:09 ` David Arnold
2018-08-29 1:06 ` [TUHS] Research UNIX on the AT&T 3B2? Dave Horsfall
2018-08-29 3:23 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-08-29 4:36 ` [TUHS] Cryptic Unix Commands Warren Toomey
2018-08-29 16:13 ` Jeremy C. Reed
2018-08-29 22:03 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-29 22:09 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 22:21 ` William Pechter
2018-08-29 23:04 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 23:38 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-30 3:59 ` William Pechter
2018-08-29 22:31 ` Dan Mick
2018-08-29 23:00 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-30 8:28 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-30 11:06 ` ron
2018-08-30 11:35 ` John P. Linderman
2018-08-30 13:24 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-30 14:31 ` William Pechter
2018-08-30 15:01 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-30 15:22 ` Warner Losh
2018-08-30 16:11 ` William Pechter
2018-08-29 5:06 ` [TUHS] Research UNIX on the AT&T 3B2? Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-08-29 14:25 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-08-29 14:41 ` Dan Cross
2018-08-29 14:50 ` Chet Ramey
2018-08-29 14:59 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-29 15:08 ` Chet Ramey
2018-08-29 17:14 ` Arno Griffioen
2018-08-29 23:23 ` Eric Wayte
2018-08-30 3:03 ` Gregg Levine
2018-08-29 17:28 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-08-30 5:58 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey [this message]
2018-08-30 13:14 ` Warner Losh
2018-08-29 8:43 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-29 7:03 ` Arrigo Triulzi
2018-08-28 1:14 ` Warren Toomey
2018-08-28 17:47 ` Paul Winalski
2018-08-26 8:48 ` arnold
2018-08-26 13:09 Norman Wilson
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