From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id a06e1a49 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2018 08:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id ED0A7A22EB; Thu, 1 Nov 2018 18:47:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67535A214E; Thu, 1 Nov 2018 18:47:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B11B0A2152; Thu, 1 Nov 2018 17:42:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wm1-f51.google.com (mail-wm1-f51.google.com [209.85.128.51]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25216A214E for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2018 17:42:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wm1-f51.google.com with SMTP id a8-v6so539020wmf.1 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2018 00:42:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=8sm6SYERP0ZMGCet5K0INYkp0WYanZlDHCJXqlVRxV0=; b=L8ZBBURm90wMhK5M7+IW2G4vS8EmdehIrBUyTmZso+t+bg7HNgMJRjprVyN8lqKpQY DZg/FwJ5ax1hmjJrd9PXmPwKixrSae6jfGvpNI/9RyJQ47oYwayCKXnGTOZU7qvzILGW 3tKBFWhtju4+3n5W6Yg+ISqHi7QpK0R+w/Oi7VNvPHiR7Em+kivmr1A3p678Cb52M2wV E+qqh+t1QzSupcMadwGa9ORGZbaqCg4apUUEgXiEn27J2SpBbbJ11inRXClzbuFtqJGn BfhC2Gzj5IDNXDTVnAkqLxXBNOKL5fN8ZwZsbvMnQTiXK4fD15LNIkOlKW/BMUGF5XiF be3w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=8sm6SYERP0ZMGCet5K0INYkp0WYanZlDHCJXqlVRxV0=; b=oKQVqA9FDla+xLbGO3O1vB83cQZYzVkSEb3S2kwMqrSsHFM6m8hY7WMqAX8CYuZq44 6HSc5KzXXDsP+Loa9vRLMMC3qE2tvIuMavPEB+iybSqVqealzRVgEL2zgced3rrKF+4t 05Qm/BLmqHouU8BsvHX7bs90Oyt6zqEGWbX1p/fj52RVceMZsVAvXYSi504oPOCWYjvx OsYTBG60MX74P3OIClb8ADwYyT800UzxtCgJ51CYcDjyK7enO7QD1bZh0yz6k+q81CAg BXMF6Z8euNIQ0uUSyoAv3T4dAFXAO/By16uX4375rSrvb6EQvZq/ZpQaRSVLXY9Yu0Oc O8/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gJe8BjlffnjeTQWKPCic4BKdXop3Nf7fYO4PAiDMQF76CrG34yc UfXhBE8YMJe/CMCIVGg/P1qgDauF X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5eHn8l0HlV3mha8jOulMQVCBrGJ6q6B68xgFuotHWOzdk93Vp3wlSPRTopbwUOFkLgRc+ppkg== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:5a86:: with SMTP id o128-v6mr4615305wmb.138.1541058155176; Thu, 01 Nov 2018 00:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([2001:470:1f13:1334:2075:5b52:d481:64ac]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g7-v6sm20753054wru.38.2018.11.01.00.42.33 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 01 Nov 2018 00:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 08:42:31 +0100 From: Pierre DAVID To: tuhs@tuhs.org Message-ID: <20181101074231.GA4844@vagabond> References: <20181031043810.GA10775@minnie.tuhs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Unix APIs: elegant or not? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 08:31:25AM +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote: >On Wed, 31 Oct 2018, Paul Winalski wrote: > >>I've always thought that the UNIX file primitives very elegantly >>adhere to this principle. [...] > >Until Berkeley introduced sockets, which has the worst API that I've >ever seen in Unix-land... > Do you *really* think that IPC System V primitives are better than sockets? Pierre