From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id c41bfd77 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 15:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 5760EA203F; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 01:39:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF71FA1C5C; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 01:39:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id BC80EA1C5C; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 01:39:09 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 443 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2019 01:39:08 AEST Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3492A1C50 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 01:39:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id A413335E087; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 07:31:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 07:31:33 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Ronald Natalie Message-ID: <20190105153133.GA24497@mcvoy.com> References: <201901050226.x052QigU089781@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <22BA2F17-310F-4396-A35A-23E2D1130018@ronnatalie.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <22BA2F17-310F-4396-A35A-23E2D1130018@ronnatalie.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Isaacson v Unix X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" +1. RMS always talked big but the real work was done by other people. GCC was Tiemann at Sun and then at Cygnus, groff was James Clark, etc. I think RMS hacked on emacs but not much else. On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 09:35:53PM -0500, Ronald Natalie wrote: > Yep, it???s pretty superficial when it comes to looking at where we are today. > Further, the puppy love over RMS is entirely unjustified. He was in the right place with a rant about the industry but he???s oft unduly credited by a lot of the early GNU hangers on like Len Tower who made the project a success in spite > of RMS. > > If anybody truly knew RMS they???d not tolerate any of this. He???s the most odiferous, objectionable, sexist, pedophile I have ever met (though I???ve not met the President yet). -- --- Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com http://www.mcvoy.com/lm