From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d2c17a83 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 06:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 046A7A1F57; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 16:04:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDFB1A1C5C; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 16:03:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2AF9CA1C5C; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 16:03:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8513A1C50 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 16:03:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 1C09835E086; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 22:03:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 22:03:55 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Donald ODona Message-ID: <20190106060355.GP24497@mcvoy.com> References: <201901050226.x052QigU089781@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <22BA2F17-310F-4396-A35A-23E2D1130018@ronnatalie.com> <20190105153133.GA24497@mcvoy.com> <857E28A8-A1A7-48DD-A60D-05FADD93C6C5@eschatologist.net> <20190106024054.GA27103@eureka.lemis.com> <1584792008.119344.1546754504662.JavaMail.tomcat@india-live-be04> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1584792008.119344.1546754504662.JavaMail.tomcat@india-live-be04> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Emacs (was: Isaacson v Unix) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" This is a distraction, but didn't the BDS C guy take some of those interfaces into his editor? On Sun, Jan 06, 2019 at 06:01:44AM +0000, Donald ODona wrote: > teco, a very early (even earlier than qed/ed) character based editor, rather a stream editor in unix terms, was written by the student dan murphy for the pdp-1 in around 1964. In the 70ths two teco macro collections were popular in MIT's AI lab: tmacs&temacs, written by gus steele et al., leaving both packages unmaintained. rms took over maintenance, consolidating and improving them. That's all. He neither written teco nor the teco macro packages. > > > At 6 Jan 2019 02:51:32 +0000 (+00:00) from Greg 'groggy' Lehey : > > On Saturday, 5 January 2019 at 17:43:43 -0800, Chris Hanson wrote: > > > On Jan 5, 2019, at 7:31 AM, Larry McVoy wrote: > > >> > > >> +1. RMS always talked big but the real work was done by other people. > > >> GCC was Tiemann at Sun and then at Cygnus, groff was James Clark, > > >> etc. I think RMS hacked on emacs but not much else. > > > > > > Which I thought was originally derived from Unipress emacs > > > (Gosmacs), and was why old source code used to be hard to find. > > > > I don't think there's any serious doubt that rms wrote the original > > Emacs, in TECO. If I understand it correctly, though, he took > > significant improvements, including screen redisplay, from Gosling > > Emacs. > > > > Greg > > -- > > Sent from my desktop computer. > > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. > > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > > This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program > > reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA -- --- Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com http://www.mcvoy.com/lm