From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id a92fc746 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 02:37:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id EDD969B8A4; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 12:37:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12DE9B892; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 12:37:17 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 91C569B892; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 12:37:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1415A9B891 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 12:37:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 81C2135E130; Sun, 3 Feb 2019 18:37:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2019 18:37:15 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Warren Toomey Message-ID: <20190204023715.GU6420@mcvoy.com> References: <20190203150237.A869418C07A@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <20190204022332.GA14788@minnie.tuhs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190204022332.GA14788@minnie.tuhs.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Signal/noise X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, Feb 04, 2019 at 12:23:32PM +1000, Warren Toomey wrote: > > So I don't know what counts as 'signal' on this list versus 'noise', > > but I'd much rather read a million posts about OSI, CLNP and other > > networks ??? a history lesson and information that's been getting scarce > > in general ??? than kill/mute yet another thread full of generic "boo M$ > > Windoze" drivel that I can already find on Reddit. > > Warren's protocol for off-topic material: let it slide for a day or two, > then politely ask people to move it to the COFF list when it doesn't > veer back to the Unix direction :-) And I must say you have done a great job of handling stuff going off course. I don't mind a little wander, this list reminds me a lot of Usenet around 1985 or so. Not a ton of people but most are pretty darn interesting. So your policy of letting it wander a bit seems just right to me, yeah the Jimmy Page guitar thing was way off track but it wound down fairly quickly. I agree completely with Mantas' comment about "drivel that I can already find on Reddit." The technical content level for programmers on reddit seems pretty lame. Though the one that really puzzles me is https://news.ycombinator.com/ That place is called "Hacker news" and the level of decent hacker content is amazingly low. Once in a while there would stuff like the Netflix writeup of how they got to 200Gbit/sec on a one core server (with the data coming up to user space to be encrypted, and doing it with 1Mb/s per socket, that's 200,000 sockets running in parallel). That was an amazingly impressive accomplishment and the sort of thing I'd like to see on Hacker news but I rarely do. As in once every 10 years or so. I stopped reading it. So go you, Warren. You have the right touch for the list and while I hope you continue to do so for decades, maybe think about picking out someone who seems like a younger you as a backup. I like this list a lot. Cheers all, --lm