From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 0c158246 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 06:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6D1239B8A2; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 16:46:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D049B894; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 16:45:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D99639B894; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 16:45:46 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 1208 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 16:45:45 AEST Received: from vtr.rulingia.com (vtr.rulingia.com [45.77.232.82]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6EC39B892 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 16:45:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from server.rulingia.com (ppp59-167-167-3.static.internode.on.net [59.167.167.3]) by vtr.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x146PSO5089557 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 17:25:34 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x146PMJT096420 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 17:25:22 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x146PM6h096419 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 17:25:22 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 17:25:22 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Message-ID: <20190204062522.GA78675@server.rulingia.com> References: <20190203213907.GA6142@eureka.lemis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.1 (2018-12-01) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Happy birthday, Ken Thompson! X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2019-Feb-03 15:58:39 -0500, Clem Cole wrote: >Portability was designed as an >>import<< idea, and they tried to keep you >from exporting by getting you to use 'value add.' This is definitely the approach used by FSF/GNU - witness gcc and bash. On 2019-Feb-04 09:07:52 +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote: >And yes, I know about POSIX compatibility, but so is Linux, and it's >different enough from Unix to be damned annoying. IMO, POSIX wouldn't exist without Unix. On 2019-Feb-04 03:57:40 +0000, Jason Stevens wrote: >What would be the portable OS to rule them all?=A0 TripOS is the best I ca= n imagine.=A0 BCPL everywhere.=20 That was my thought as well, though TripOS started in 1976 so it's likely that the development team were aware of Unix and make have taken some of its ideas onboard. That said, Unix was not portable to start with. I think that the important parts were that the source was readily available within academia, it was written in a high level language and it was small enough to be understood. --=20 Peter Jeremy --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEE7rKYbDBnHnTmXCJ+FqWXoOSiCzQFAlxX2tJfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEVF QjI5ODZDMzA2NzFFNzRFNjVDMjI3RTE2QTU5N0EwRTRBMjBCMzQACgkQFqWXoOSi CzSuLw/7BYgtv7xFJf7Xt/y6++V8Ozzzh5glgscO+RDYzDKbUJV79w/ekyueGL/H N4LXwBN0kb2cqq9zU0EC/FD5X2ADnqTAGUB231iiBf/gNB6pQuS2ajT1UDFnTSqc IZARoybIDIbc6e1B4CddVfkIDlPJs2L1GUX9GoEFBby9ZT+xTAntPjb2cQEkRG5V PBDwAgyqvRiNtywlOGw4VUOpkzRtzwpSkyt6sKmoJFfqRDiA9M/sgfBG+AXlCSVQ 0Keqz+Nq+TMCoZcPxt2dJUdKvj4LSQaHaG4OjMRZ65sExp169D0VQ4YuGD5eeo33 AvoxJZef3jXr/bjLfhBoG7VNMqKF8llQGjOgkv2y4DbeOi31VKrDpuGL2OYnR6Rs c8Vra7qip00PfqM1npeM5Uf9HjmEKUUrtgXnhdoAhS4kRBGdGidZ0K5XapurpB3o Athhvl4E8Gj8bnYJBvmpz+rrZ6YFGludlKxxqBPRCj37Yfis9bobOZ8gRtoqkmr/ DJkEmEe7cV0yXanRtZURG30wGY5DUkWaMZNgdMNOn0YPNpStaqsmBezeM5oT9Mc6 eJCOLtLWgbwElNWs81CA+OHf/XNiL+6Xsf9xMab+abbFJ8573YfIcMd4e6fBc+8i PMY/tohsRnjahL4xfeBjPAKBxoTUk7/pCQ7QjcgObved9EKQmDI= =JABn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd--