From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d88021e4 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 17:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9A2DA9B8BA; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 03:23:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF24B9B8A2; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 03:23:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A25769B8A2; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 03:23:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 223CA9B8A1 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 03:23:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id BB6B335E130; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 09:23:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 09:23:08 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Warner Losh Message-ID: <20190206172308.GI20698@mcvoy.com> References: <20190203150237.A869418C07A@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] OSI stack (Was: Posters) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society , Noel Chiappa Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 10:16:24AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In many ways, it was a > classic second system effect because they were trying to fix everything > they thought was wrong with TCP/IP at the time without really, truly > knowing the differences between actual problems and mere annoyances and how > to properly weight the severity of the issue in coming up with their > solutions. Perfectly stated.