From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 59dc8e09 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 01:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9EA5694BFF; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 11:15:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426DC94BEC; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 11:15:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A295C94BEA; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 11:15:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from ducky.net (96-65-219-1-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [96.65.219.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82A5294BE9 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 11:15:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from ducky.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ducky.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x2B1FJ1C040213 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 18:15:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@ducky.net) Received: (from mike@localhost) by ducky.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x2B1FI0V040212; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 18:15:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike) Message-Id: <201903110115.x2B1FI0V040212@ducky.net> From: Mike Haertel To: The Unix Heritage Society In-reply-to: References: <201903100731.x2A7VZJF033832@ducky.net> <7wpnqzj7tr.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <201903102253.x2AMrks8039290@ducky.net> Comments: In-reply-to Al Kossow message dated "Sun, 10 Mar 2019 17:25:45 -0700." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <40210.1552266918.1@ducky.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 18:15:18 -0700 X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (ducky.net [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 10 Mar 2019 18:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [TUHS] a possible source for 4.1BSD tapes X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Al Kossow writes: > On 3/10/19 3:53 PM, Mike Haertel wrote: > > Warner Losh writes: > >> There's also > >> http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/bits/BSD/BSD4.1_bootable.tap.gz wh= ich I > >> just noticed... > > Likely a Memorex sticky tape that stripped its oxide when I tried to rea= d it. > > These were read a long time before I had a tape oven. > > I've not dug back into what I still have from the 4BSD days, or in the C= HM > archives since I thought Kirk had this all covered. I've double-checked, and disk1/4.1 from Kirk's archive is definitely 4.0, (with the addition of a 4.0.upgrade directory taken from a 4.1 distributio= n). As far as online 4.1 tape images are concerned, I did a bit more investiga= ting: AFAICT this file: http://bitsavers.org/bits/BSD/BSD4.1_bootable.tap.gz app= ears to be the closest online thing to a 7/10/1981 version of 4.1. This file: http://bitsavers.org/bits/UCB_CSRG/41bsd_7-10-81.tap contains f= iles with modification times up through June 1982. Neither of these include the corresponding /usr/doc or /usr/ingres (which = would have been on the distribution tape #2). Those seem to be missing altogeth= er.