From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_EXCESS_BASE64, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id f9c1795e for ; Thu, 30 May 2019 19:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A39F59B826; Fri, 31 May 2019 05:26:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDBB9B685; Fri, 31 May 2019 05:25:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C1BAA9B680; Fri, 31 May 2019 05:25:37 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 359 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Fri, 31 May 2019 05:25:37 AEST Received: from pio-pvt-msa2.bahnhof.se (pio-pvt-msa2.bahnhof.se [79.136.2.41]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 180BC9B67F for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 05:25:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pio-pvt-msa2.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DCA4056C for ; Thu, 30 May 2019 21:19:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at bahnhof.se Received: from pio-pvt-msa2.bahnhof.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pio-pvt-msa2.bahnhof.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NCodU7XtBKSx for ; Thu, 30 May 2019 21:19:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from h-174-65.A328.priv.bahnhof.se (h-174-65.A328.priv.bahnhof.se [81.170.174.65]) (Authenticated sender: mc179410) by pio-pvt-msa2.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 65A1E4056A for ; Thu, 30 May 2019 21:19:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from h-174-65.A328.priv.bahnhof.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h-174-65.A328.priv.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB9D42E2A11 for ; Thu, 30 May 2019 21:19:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 19:19:26 +0000 From: Michael =?utf-8?B?S2rDtnJsaW5n?= To: tuhs@tuhs.org Message-ID: <20190530191926.6n4uvebwill77qzp@h-174-65.A328.priv.bahnhof.se> References: <975B93B6-AD7C-41B5-A14D-2DE4FEFAD3A6@kdbarto.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <975B93B6-AD7C-41B5-A14D-2DE4FEFAD3A6@kdbarto.org> Subject: Re: [TUHS] Quotas - did anyone ever use them? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 30 May 2019 06:49 -0700, from david@kdbarto.org (David): > I think it was BSD 4.1 that added quotas to the disk system, and I > was just wondering if anyone ever used them, in academia or > industry. As a user and an admin I never used this and, while I > thought it was interesting, just figured that the users would sort > it out amongst themselves. Which they mostly did. > > So, anyone ever use this feature? Don't forget probably every ISP under the sun. My first Internet account in 1995 (or possibly 1996) came with *nix shell access (please don't ask me what variant; I used it mostly to run pine, and occasionally pico, and it was dial-up which was charged per minute by the phone company) and a 4 MB quota, which you could pay to have increased. That quota covered everything in your $HOME; as I recall, including e-mail, and definitely including ~/public_html. These days, it seems that with the exception of _really_ cheap accounts, web host quotas are big enough that they for all intents and purposes might as well not be there, even with today's bloated content. Back then, even 4 MB for everything felt on the tight side, and you certainly had to think about what you put there. -- Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • michael@kjorling.se “The most dangerous thought that you can have as a creative person is to think you know what you’re doing.” (Bret Victor)