From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id dd501cf6 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 20:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 724119B7EA; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 06:38:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555FB9B682; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 06:38:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A60619B682; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 06:38:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (fourwinds.com [63.64.179.162]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F8FD9B67E for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 06:38:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x57KcX3Y029525 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 13:38:33 -0700 Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (jon@localhost) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x57KcXPD029522 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 13:38:33 -0700 Message-Id: <201906072038.x57KcXPD029522@darkstar.fourwinds.com> From: Jon Steinhart To: TUHS In-reply-to: <40c8876c56404121@orthanc.ca> References: <20190605160216.GA6188@lap> <20190605162920.GA18318@lap> <40c8876c56404121@orthanc.ca> Comments: In-reply-to Lyndon Nerenberg message dated "Fri, 07 Jun 2019 13:14:14 -0700." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <29520.1559939913.1@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 13:38:33 -0700 X-JON-SPAM: local delivery Subject: Re: [TUHS] PAC (Perceptual audio coder) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Lyndon Nerenberg writes: > > Then an AT&T lawyer stepped in at the last minute, was deeply offensive and > > rude to us, and shut down the effort for completely stupid and invalid > > reasons. I still bristle at the memory. What an asshole. > > Be brave. Name names. Let him try to sue himself out of history. Ken talked about this at a conference that I attended a couple of decades ago. He had brought a whole pile of discs that he had made to give out before the idea was nixed by the attorney. Somehow audience members filched these discs while Ken was fiddling with his slides. No, I didn't end up getting one. So I don't know whether or not these included source code. Jon