From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id a6f58ce3 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 00:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id AEB3A9BCC1; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:33:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DFA9BC62; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:33:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 94CD39BC44; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:33:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4980F9BC43 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:33:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 14B1F35E13F; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 17:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 17:33:09 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Mary Ann Horton Gmail Message-ID: <20190624003308.GC20473@mcvoy.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Floppy to modern files for Usenet maps X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" I'd look around for an external floppy drive, plug it into a modern machine, download knoppix, boot that and it will read the disk. On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 04:10:22PM -0700, Mary Ann Horton Gmail wrote: > Hunting around through my ancient stuff today, I ran across a 5.25" floppy > drive labeled as having old Usenet maps. These may have historical interest. > > First off, I don't recognize the handwriting on the disk. It's not mine. > Does anyone recognize it? (pic attached) > > I dug out my AT&T 6300 (XT clone) from the garage and booted it up. The > floppy reads just fine. It has files with .MAP extension, which are ASCII > Usenet maps from 1980 to 1984, and some .BBM files which are ASCII Usenet > backbone maps up to 1987. > > There is also a file whose extension is .GRF from 1983 which claims to be a > graphical Usenet map.?? Does anyone have any idea what GRF is or what this > map might be? I recall Brian Reid having a plotter-based Usenet geographic > map in 84 or 85. > > I'd like to copy these files off for posterity. They read on DOS just fine. > Is there a current best practice for copying off files? I would have guessed > I'd need a to use the serial port, but my old PC has DOS 2.11 (not much > serial copying software on it) and I don't have anything live with a serial > port anymore. And it might not help with the GRF file. > > I took some photos of the screen with the earliest maps (the ones that fit > on one screen.) So it's an option to type things in, at least for the early > ASCII ones. > > Thanks, > > ?????? Mary Ann > > -- --- Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com http://www.mcvoy.com/lm