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From: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
To: Arthur Krewat <krewat@kilonet.net>
Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Floppy to modern files for Usenet maps
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 17:56:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190624005614.GF20473@mcvoy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c9ca5a7f-4ba4-0273-6f49-57ba0ee61a06@kilonet.net>

Arthur's comments bring back some memories.  I probably still have this,
a ribbon serial cable with male and female connectors on both ends and
a breadboard in the middle.  I could hook anything to anything :)

That said, I'm *ecstatic* that I no longer have to deal with serial ports.

On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 08:53:19PM -0400, Arthur Krewat wrote:
> Both the AT&T and the USB cable will be "DTE" (Data Terminal Equipment - ala
> terminal) vs. "DCE" (Data Communication Equipment - ala modem) - you'll need
> a null-modem cable to correct that mismatch. Basically, if not using
> hardware handshake, swap pin 2 and 3. ;)
> 
> 
> On 6/23/2019 8:35 PM, Mary Ann Horton Gmail wrote:
> >These are great ideas. I can easily get USB-to-serial (and even
> >USB-to-parallel) cables online that will fit the PC/XT compatible DB-25
> >plugs on the back of the PC.?? I'll have to figure out how to fiddle with
> >the baud rates and such.
> >
> >I solved the GRF file puzzle.?? It turns out it's a text file - a Usenet
> >article. And the same article is in the Google archive.
> >
> >https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/group$3Anet.news.map$20philabs!dal/net.news.map/lhqyD7MOFe8/v0CQFMZyGboJ
> >
> >
> >There is a cutoff notice at the end, both on the Usenet article and on the
> >floppy file, but that may be intentional.?? I'll have some fiddling to do.
> >
> >?????? Mary Ann
> >
> >On 6/23/19 5:02 PM, Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote:
> >>On 6/23/19 5:52 PM, Arthur Krewat wrote:
> >>>Does the AT&T have a serial port?
> >>>
> >>>Kermit would be the way I'd go, but since you say you have nothing
> >>>with serial ports, that could be a problem. A cheap usb-to-serial port
> >>>might be in order. Then you can run Kermit 95 on a Windows 7 or
> >>>earlier machine. (might work on later OS's too, but it's not
> >>>supported)
> >>>
> >>>The flip side is how to get Kermit onto the DOS machine.
> >>
> >>Does Kermit have an option like INTERLNK & INTERSVR have where you can
> >>run a "copy COM1 INTERxxx.EXE" to push the software across the serial
> >>port?
> >>
> >>I wonder what the requirements are for INTERLNK & INTERSVR. I don't know
> >>if they would go back to (MS-)DOS 2.11 or not.
> >>
> >>>I used a floppy recovery service a while back to read my old Commodore
> >>>64/PET disks - he was relatively inexpensive, and very responsive.
> >>>
> >>>http://retrofloppy.com/
> >>
> >>If the machine is able to read the files without error, then a recovery
> >>service might not be necessary.?? IMHO it's a question of getting one or
> >>more copies onto something else so that the existing floppy isn't the
> >>only copy.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >

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Larry McVoy            	     lm at mcvoy.com             http://www.mcvoy.com/lm 

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-24  0:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-23 23:10 Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-06-23 23:52 ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24  0:02   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-06-24  0:35     ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-06-24  0:53       ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24  0:56         ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2019-06-24  1:12           ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24  1:31             ` William Pechter
2019-06-24  1:51               ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24  1:40         ` Bakul Shah
2019-06-24  3:20           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-06-24  0:50     ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24 21:07     ` Michael Kjörling
2019-06-24 21:30       ` Steve Nickolas
2019-06-24 21:59         ` Gregg Levine
2019-06-23 23:57 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-06-24  0:40   ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-06-24  1:37     ` William Pechter
2019-06-24  3:17     ` Jason Stevens
2019-06-24  1:57   ` Steve Nickolas
2019-06-24  2:09     ` pechter
2019-06-24  0:03 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-24  0:19 ` Seth Morabito
2019-06-24  0:33 ` Larry McVoy
2019-06-24  1:58   ` Steve Nickolas
2019-06-25  3:54 ` Jonathan Gevaryahu
2019-06-25 11:21   ` ckeck
2019-07-09 16:28 ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 16:53   ` KatolaZ
2019-07-09 17:12   ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 17:25     ` Seth Morabito
2019-07-09 17:34       ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 19:19         ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 19:41           ` Richard Salz
2019-07-09 20:09           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 20:58             ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 20:54           ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 21:30             ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 21:35               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 21:37             ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 21:46               ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 22:02                 ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 23:23                   ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-10  0:06                     ` Dan Cross
2019-07-10  0:26                       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-10  0:38                         ` Dan Cross
2019-07-10  0:49                           ` Larry McVoy
2019-07-10  0:57                             ` Clem Cole
2019-07-10  1:26                               ` [TUHS] V0 B Compiler Warren Toomey
2019-07-10  1:29                                 ` Clem Cole
2019-07-10  1:32                                   ` [TUHS] Plot 10 Sources Clem Cole
2019-07-10  2:51                                     ` Charles Anthony
2019-07-10  3:00                                       ` Charles Anthony
2019-07-10  3:01                                       ` Clem Cole
2019-07-10 12:51                                     ` Nelson H. F. Beebe
2019-07-10 14:34                                       ` Clem cole
2019-07-10  1:02                             ` [TUHS] Floppy to modern files for Usenet maps Arthur Krewat
2019-07-10  1:19                               ` Larry McVoy
2019-07-10  1:34                                 ` Dave Horsfall
2019-07-10  0:28                       ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 22:01               ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 22:44                 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 23:14                   ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-10  0:24                     ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-10  1:13                       ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 17:33     ` Clem Cole
2019-07-15  3:21   ` [TUHS] Historical " Mary Ann Horton Gmail

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