From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 35dd5e4a for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 01:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 948889BD1B; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:46:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA099BC44; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:46:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 26F809BC44; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:46:02 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 340 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:46:01 AEST Received: from mail.bitblocks.com (ns1.bitblocks.com [173.228.5.8]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FEEB9BC43 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:46:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from bitblocks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bitblocks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24AD156E40C for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 18:40:13 -0700 (PDT) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 23 Jun 2019 20:53:19 -0400." References: <92db46d5-d821-a792-7753-dfc5f2898cbf@mhorton.net> Comments: In-reply-to Arthur Krewat message dated "Sun, 23 Jun 2019 20:53:19 -0400." From: Bakul Shah MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <24769.1561340413.1@bitblocks.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 18:40:13 -0700 Message-Id: <20190624014020.D24AD156E40C@mail.bitblocks.com> Subject: Re: [TUHS] Floppy to modern files for Usenet maps X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 20:53:19 -0400 Arthur Krewat wrote: > Both the AT&T and the USB cable will be "DTE" (Data Terminal Equipment - > ala terminal) vs. "DCE" (Data Communication Equipment - ala modem) - > you'll need a null-modem cable to correct that mismatch. Basically, if > not using hardware handshake, swap pin 2 and 3. ;) Since mid 80s I have used Dave Yost's wiring scheme that converts a DB-25 or DB-9 adapter to an RJ-45 socket: http://yost.com/computers/RJ45-serial/ You wire any DB-25 or DB-9 DCE or DTE male or female adapter so that the RJ-45 socket has the above pinout. You figure out which device needs what kind of adapter and permanently attach the adapter. Now you can use a standard "half-twist" phone cable with 4, 6 or 8 wires and connect anything to anything. My last device with a real RS-232 interface (a CP-290 X10 controller) where I used this died 4-5 years ago. I still use serial ports on RaspberryPis but talk to them via serial<->USB adapters (these are 3.3V uarts).