From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 21eb311e for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 02:46:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id EF9269BDD7; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:46:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D669BD79; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:46:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2C3629BD80; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:46:27 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 1046 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:46:21 AEST Received: from vtr.rulingia.com (vtr.rulingia.com [45.77.232.82]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D801C9BF4B for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:46:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from server.rulingia.com (ppp59-167-167-3.static.internode.on.net [59.167.167.3]) by vtr.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x5Q2SUS9003059 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:28:35 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x5Q2SOeI087053 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:28:24 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x5Q2SOSF087052; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:28:24 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:28:24 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Fabio Scotoni Message-ID: <20190626022824.GA86961@server.rulingia.com> References: <14453.1554920068@cesium.clock.org> <57C2E8D6-148C-487E-A6AE-B6E0E6EC337C@bitblocks.com> <7b575d14-270c-1d3a-7419-0329ffb42669@esse.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7b575d14-270c-1d3a-7419-0329ffb42669@esse.ch> X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.0 (2019-05-25) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Paper discussing Unix boot process? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [Resurrecting an old thread to provide some input from Dave Horsfall] On 2019-Apr-11 06:52:08 +0200, Fabio Scotoni wrote: >On 4/11/19 1:19 AM, Bakul Shah wrote: >> On Apr 10, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Clem Cole wrote: >>> >>> [...] is the Lions book including PS and PDF and in the original troff = thankfully. >>=20 >> May be someone will be inspired enough to convert this to troff? =2E.. >Thus, the first step would be to reverse engineer the troff macros used >to typeset the book. >Then the TeX sources would need to be converted to those troff macros; >this can possibly be automated entirely. >Then the matching version of troff would need to be used to typeset it >(likely via apout and V6 or V7 troff). >Finally, the C/A/T typesetter output would need to be converted to >PostScript or PDF (either Adobe's psroff or Chris Lewis's psroff from >comp.unix.sources can likely help with that; I got Lewis's psroff to >work a while ago, but it's pretty brittle). On 2019-Jun-26 11:34:31 +1000, Dave Horsfall wrote: >'Twas NROFF on the CSU's LA120 (I should know; I ran the Unix section), >with draft versions on a Duckwriter which I helped proof-read. Don't know >whether custom macros were used; quite likely, as he was that sort of >bloke. After all, he was a Comp Sci lecturer (one of mine!) and if you >find yourself writing the same lines over and over again... > >Going by that snippet of the thread (too much to follow, as I'm still >figuring out from which lists I've been bounced) it would be a heroic >effort to reverse-engineer it, and quite likely not worth the trouble. > >The original source would've been at Elec Eng, but long gone by now. > >As for TROFF, well, I'm not aware that UNSW has a C/A/T :-) > >Oh, the LA120 had a single-use nylon ribbon, I think, not fabric, hence >the somewhat high quality (I no longer have my Lions books to check; lost >after several house moves). --=20 Peter Jeremy --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEE7rKYbDBnHnTmXCJ+FqWXoOSiCzQFAl0S2EFfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEVF QjI5ODZDMzA2NzFFNzRFNjVDMjI3RTE2QTU5N0EwRTRBMjBCMzQACgkQFqWXoOSi CzTUxxAAjehroq9R3z/woOUbSlhkROVOR1wWkKf8vpki6OGwdNl2Zs58sLwOsqfz bOxI83NjaAtbqWAfR7EvqcWPmJQfk/ZjUr6qB6s3oX5y0FbXPN1AjQiF9tH8IZmg sVK4YM6Vh93B+EKx4A4sF4jC2fSHb6PDx5xujQxCBBgwsEWTKcQKG2k/gnLFGpyA GLd339Zpvueqh3/+dKSHTY+ok6ZUHBl0/w/BktSShogypqRaLqGbVQRwLQaPZ8uX kJdXuQogRzvoZTb8xj3xvxE2cvhsiHt0mhsDyZCJHJIcbpl081PMZ9Dz5Ay/qW3V 1LFFtUNTKZ8m5WjcSFmsm9LSAbsnAHv3gTPJo6RYKNLPtpRskZI9OBHidQqbuf7g kPHsKrwdOViI/ci6p4gvN8/Vd7xJU1CitVuesERVc1umy7R9Zm+6q3gQ5U4F+fwk TX4h1SA1lPEzykLBzXGAi/3OaDykpOEU3FFXSzGbJRUsK3TVShZwtKemnbTCG5tS ovXc0GzxYsnqrZxwIw9ZLhP/u8hTfS8anUZu9i3DF+phR/o0e+NBp2raKaeuwbRo Tt9Htk5E4MFinj9Co0kurnBM2i3gu+J7Z0d6Mj96A7pMZNvaRxNo7OSS84l6/Ph0 dF0fBm+ALppZN3FblywDSDxWfKu5hU5cM6lBJtr010ir1DG1J2Y= =NNBr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ--