From: Kurt H Maier <khm@sciops.net>
To: Richard Salz <rich.salz@gmail.com>
Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] CMU Mach sources?
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 19:45:03 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190626024503.GA43970@wopr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFH29trvYzXk5Uq3ndeaEOTTs3ChXH3ECJp_vo2u3RCemhCBbg@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 09:00:28PM -0400, Richard Salz wrote:
> Is this really the kind of commentary appropriate for this list? I mean I'm
> new here, but...
It might not be, but it is definitely relevant to Unix. Arguably the
drivers of Unix's development movement away from R&D-focused places and
toward product-oriented entities had at least a little to do with
Larry's topic of complaint. Product managers gained the ammunition to
demand sustainable development practices, while R&D got a little leaner,
a little more focused on demonstrating the thesis, a little less focused
on who might need to run this code five years on...
I'd say there's a thesis to be written about the economics of support
contracts vs the economics of proving concepts, but since I'm not
volunteering to write it, I'll shut up about it on TUHS. Suffice to say
the sociology surrounding the evolution of Unix is a topic I find
fascinating, even if it's not strictly technical.
khm
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-26 2:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-23 4:38 Chris Hanson
2019-06-23 5:15 ` Larry McVoy
2019-06-23 8:52 ` Andrew Warkentin
2019-06-23 13:39 ` Jon Forrest
2019-06-23 13:59 ` arnold
2019-06-23 14:03 ` Jason Stevens
2019-06-23 8:04 ` Jason Stevens
2019-06-23 14:54 ` Henry Bent
2019-06-23 21:52 ` Clem Cole
2019-06-25 0:06 ` Larry McVoy
2019-06-25 0:31 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-25 0:45 ` Larry McVoy
2019-06-25 0:55 ` Kurt H Maier
2019-06-25 4:18 ` Larry McVoy
2019-06-26 23:19 ` [TUHS] Craft vs Research (Re: " Bakul Shah
2019-06-27 0:16 ` tuhs
2019-06-27 17:06 ` Clem Cole
2019-06-25 1:00 ` [TUHS] " Richard Salz
2019-06-25 8:00 ` Kevin Bowling
2019-06-25 12:11 ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-25 12:17 ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-26 2:45 ` Kurt H Maier [this message]
2019-06-26 2:56 ` Larry McVoy
2019-06-26 15:11 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-26 17:44 ` Larry McVoy
2019-06-26 18:01 ` arnold
2019-06-26 18:18 ` Warner Losh
2019-06-26 19:22 ` Chris Hanson
2019-06-26 19:32 ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2019-06-26 20:21 ` Larry McVoy
2019-06-27 0:22 ` Chris Hanson
2019-06-27 1:02 ` Larry McVoy
2019-06-27 1:26 ` Chris Hanson
2019-06-27 4:01 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2019-06-27 10:34 ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2019-06-27 10:59 ` arnold
2019-06-27 11:13 ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2019-06-27 11:39 ` arnold
2019-06-27 14:58 ` Warner Losh
2019-06-27 17:25 ` Larry McVoy
2019-06-26 19:30 ` Dennis Boone
2019-06-26 19:25 ` Adam Thornton
2019-06-23 8:27 ` Kevin Bowling
2019-06-25 3:07 ` Gregg Levine
2019-06-25 8:15 ` Kevin Bowling
2019-06-25 18:18 ` Chris Hanson
2019-06-25 20:23 ` Gregg Levine
2019-06-26 1:04 ` Jason Stevens
2019-06-26 0:53 ` Jason Stevens
2019-06-25 7:49 ` Jason Stevens
2019-06-25 7:59 ` Andreas Grapentin
2019-06-23 22:08 Noel Chiappa
2019-06-23 23:54 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-24 17:04 ` Jason Stevens
2019-07-01 13:20 Jason Stevens
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