From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 93c4e920 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 16:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9593F9B9DD; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 02:57:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1879B738; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 02:56:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4CB209B738; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 02:56:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1EAC9491B for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 02:56:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 5FE1C35E13F; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:56:45 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Jason Stevens Message-ID: <20190717165645.GF16562@mcvoy.com> References: <8235a090-c48a-4587-8974-23305233bc33@PU1APC01FT026.eop-APC01.prod.protection.outlook.com> <3CFC8159-08DD-4647-8CEF-FE8D196AB3C9@ccc.com> <610F6FCB-F24D-4788-953A-83E0E6456622@ccc.com> <017d16e0-3a7d-b3e7-29b8-8a454d78463f@e-bbes.com> <201907170810.x6H8AELx031974@freefriends.org> <20190717151101.GD16562@mcvoy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "tuhs@tuhs.org" Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Wow, those came out when I was there, I've done a ton of work on those machines. The first Sun cluster was built from them. But I've never seen that ad before, it's classic Sun. On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 11:36:43PM +0800, Jason Stevens wrote: > Funny you mention that, I recently pulled this ad from SUN: > > https://books.google.com.hk/books/content?id=GTwEAAAAMBAJ&hl=en-US&rview=1&pg=PT8&img=1&zoom=3&sig=ACfU3U0g2GS1KStkA6HXup3UG31UQdNcwg&w=1280 > > These days, there???s absolutely no limit to the things you can add to your PCs. Coprocessors. VGA cards. Large scale monitors. Network cards. > But no matter how many thousands of dollars you pour into your PCs, they still can???t give you what you get with every Sun workstation. The screaming-hot performance. The multi-tasking. The high-resolution graphics. And the built-in networking. > And now, we???re introducing a new workstation that makes all the shortcomings of your PCs even more obvious. > SPARCstation??? IPC. > At $8,995*, it???s the lowest cost, full-color RISC workstation in the world. By far. In fact, it???s about the same price as a high-performance 386 PC. But just look at the difference???. > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Larry McVoy > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 11:11 PM > To: arnold@skeeve.com > Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org > Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386 > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 02:10:14AM -0600, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: > > emanuel stiebler wrote: > > > > > On 2019-07-11 18:50, A. P. Garcia wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:31 PM Clem cole wrote: > > > > > > > Did Sun have anything to do with that? I seem to recall something > > > > called "Interactive Unix" for the 386, possibly marketed by Sun... > > > > > > "Interactive Unix" was pretty nice back than. > > > Anybody remembers ESIX? Still have the document wall for that ... > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > Sun had a '386 based system in early 90s-ish called the Road Runner. > > I never saw it. It ran SunOS 4.x and I think was discontinued by the > > time Solaris 2.x came along. > > Yep, can confirm. I was a fan but the powers that were at Sun at the > time just didn't want competition for SPARC. Which was sort of silly, > a 386 was nowhere near as fast as the SPARC chips of the day, that was > when RISC actually made sense. But perhaps they had a crystal ball > and could see that x86 was going to be as fast or faster down the > road? I tend to doubt it, they really looked down on the 386. > -- --- Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com http://www.mcvoy.com/lm