From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id bba1c89e for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 00:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 03B069B9BE; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 10:05:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3857094BCD; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 10:04:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 862BB94BD4; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 10:04:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from www.lemis.com (www.lemis.com [208.86.226.86]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31AD394BCD for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 10:04:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from eureka.lemis.com (lemis.com [192.109.197.81]) by www.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB4A1B72837; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 00:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eureka.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29C56264D3F; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 10:04:25 +1000 (AEST) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 10:04:25 +1000 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: emanuel stiebler Message-ID: <20190718000425.GB73488@eureka.lemis.com> References: <8235a090-c48a-4587-8974-23305233bc33@PU1APC01FT026.eop-APC01.prod.protection.outlook.com> <3CFC8159-08DD-4647-8CEF-FE8D196AB3C9@ccc.com> <610F6FCB-F24D-4788-953A-83E0E6456622@ccc.com> <017d16e0-3a7d-b3e7-29b8-8a454d78463f@e-bbes.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <017d16e0-3a7d-b3e7-29b8-8a454d78463f@e-bbes.com> Organization: LEMIS, 29 Stones Road, Dereel, VIC, Australia Phone: +61-3-5309-0418 Mobile: +61-490-494-038. Use only as instructed. WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) Subject: [TUHS] BSD/386 (was: Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday, 17 July 2019 at 9:37:44 +0200, emanuel stiebler wrote: > On 2019-07-11 18:50, A. P. Garcia wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:31 PM Clem cole wrote: > >> Did Sun have anything to do with that? I seem to recall something >> called "Interactive Unix" for the 386, possibly marketed by Sun... > > "Interactive Unix" was pretty nice back than. I used it in the early 1990s (Interactive UNIX/386, based on System V, IIRC; there were other versions with different lineage). My recollections of it were less positive than yours, maybe only by comparison. Installation (hundreds of small components, each with their own license key) was a nightmare. In that connection, and by way of comparison, I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned BSDI's BSD/386 yet, which grew up intimately related to Jolitz' 386BSD. Jolitz worked with BSDI until (the beginning of?) December 1991, when he left due to disagreement with BSDI's licence model, apparently destroying all his work. I started using BSD/386 in mid-March 1992, a couple of days before Jolitz released 386BSD. In contrast to 386BSD, it was solid, installed easily, and cost $1000 (with source; I think there were cheaper binary-only options). It blew Interactive UNIX out of the water. This was a Beta, so I sent reports which I have published at http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-mar1992.php#18 It's a pity that BSD/386 (later BSD/OS) went away, though later we incorporated some parts of the kernel into FreeBSD (with BSDI's permission and blessing, of course; see http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-jun2000.php). In contrast to the other early offerings, it Just Worked. But the idea of paying for operating systems seemed to have passed its use-by date. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAl0vt4kACgkQIubykFB6QiN2hQCfb8MAEIZPStWVA9rBXZiux3FD KroAoIz3UDuDM5RzYR7QK5DDnzBj/dny =ra4d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t--