Re: [TUHS] BSD/386 (was: Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386)

Re: [TUHS] BSD/386 (was: Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386)

[Richard Tobin]

> BSD[Ii] got in trouble with AT&T for their sales number, which was
> 1-800-ITS-UNIX. I don't know if they ever got officially sued or not.

There was a joke that MIT should have sued them too, for violating their
trademark on ITS.

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Re: [TUHS] BSD/386 (was: Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386)

[Chet Ramey]

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On 7/17/19 8:04 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

> I started using BSD/386 in mid-March 1992, a couple of days before
> Jolitz released 386BSD.  In contrast to 386BSD, it was solid,
> installed easily, and cost $1000 (with source; I think there were
> cheaper binary-only options).  It blew Interactive UNIX out of the
> water.  This was a Beta, so I sent reports which I have published at
> http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-mar1992.php#18

Agreed. We used BSD/386 and BSD/OS pretty heavily at Case. We ran a
significant portion of the infrastructure services on it. It was
solid.

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Re: [TUHS] BSD/386 (was: Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386)

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

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On Wednesday, 17 July 2019 at 20:16:59 -0400, Richard Salz wrote:
> BSD[Ii] got in trouble with AT&T for their sales number, which was
> 1-800-ITS-UNIX.

Correct.

> I don't know if they ever got officially sued or not.

Not for that.  I think they got a "cease and desist" or whatever it's
called, and they changed their number.  They were, however, the main
group that got sued in the Unix wars, along with UCB, but not the free
BSDs.

Greg
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Re: [TUHS] BSD/386 (was: Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386)

[Richard Salz]

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BSD[Ii] got in trouble with AT&T for their sales number, which was
1-800-ITS-UNIX. I don't know if they ever got officially sued or not.

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[TUHS] BSD/386 (was: Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386)

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

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On Wednesday, 17 July 2019 at  9:37:44 +0200, emanuel stiebler wrote:
> On 2019-07-11 18:50, A. P. Garcia wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:31 PM Clem cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
>
>> Did Sun have anything to do with that? I seem to recall something
>> called "Interactive Unix" for the 386, possibly marketed by Sun...
>
> "Interactive Unix" was pretty nice back than.

I used it in the early 1990s (Interactive UNIX/386, based on System V,
IIRC; there were other versions with different lineage).  My
recollections of it were less positive than yours, maybe only by
comparison.  Installation (hundreds of small components, each with
their own license key) was a nightmare.

In that connection, and by way of comparison, I'm surprised that
nobody has mentioned BSDI's BSD/386 yet, which grew up intimately
related to Jolitz' 386BSD.  Jolitz worked with BSDI until (the
beginning of?) December 1991, when he left due to disagreement with
BSDI's licence model, apparently destroying all his work.

I started using BSD/386 in mid-March 1992, a couple of days before
Jolitz released 386BSD.  In contrast to 386BSD, it was solid,
installed easily, and cost $1000 (with source; I think there were
cheaper binary-only options).  It blew Interactive UNIX out of the
water.  This was a Beta, so I sent reports which I have published at
http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-mar1992.php#18

It's a pity that BSD/386 (later BSD/OS) went away, though later we
incorporated some parts of the kernel into FreeBSD (with BSDI's
permission and blessing, of course; see
http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-jun2000.php).  In contrast to the
other early offerings, it Just Worked.  But the idea of paying for
operating systems seemed to have passed its use-by date.

Greg
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