From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=FROM_EXCESS_BASE64, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 4ba62dd1 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 09:56:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 594C39BCD6; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 19:56:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068A59BC42; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 19:56:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 968939BC42; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 19:56:10 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 305 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 19:56:10 AEST Received: from pio-pvt-msa3.bahnhof.se (pio-pvt-msa3.bahnhof.se [79.136.2.42]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F3049BC35 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 19:56:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pio-pvt-msa3.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87823F644 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 11:51:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at bahnhof.se Received: from pio-pvt-msa3.bahnhof.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pio-pvt-msa3.bahnhof.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4n6gzGPOrAig for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 11:51:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from h-178-80.A328.priv.bahnhof.se (h-178-80.A328.priv.bahnhof.se [98.128.178.80]) (Authenticated sender: mc179410) by pio-pvt-msa3.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 558633F63C for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 11:51:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from h-178-80.A328.priv.bahnhof.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h-178-80.A328.priv.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94EB92E0345 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 11:51:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 09:50:59 +0000 From: Michael =?utf-8?B?S2rDtnJsaW5n?= To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Message-ID: <20190828095059.GA10799@h-178-80.A328.priv.bahnhof.se> References: <13c5c36e-c84d-e020-d09e-51c8c502dc6d@kilonet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TUHS] If not Linux, then what? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 28 Aug 2019 11:36 +0200, from angus@fairhaven.za.net (Angus Robinson): > I think another question would be, if Linux was never invented, what > technologies would never have happened. I think that if there is a need to be filled, then something will fill that need. In our timeline, in plenty of cases that need ended up being filled by Linux -- quite possibly not in least part because it's there, it's cheap, it's reasonably well-supported, and it can be modified and extended by end users relatively easily. However, absent Linux, as long as the task still needed to be done, _something else_ would have filled the need at some point. Plenty of people got interested in the technology/information technology sector well before Linux. Maybe Linux offered a venue for some of those people to _express_ their interest, but I have a hard time seeing why Linux would be a prerequisite. On another note, and to get back to the original question, I'm a little surprised that nobody here seems to have mentioned something like an outgrowth of Minix. -- Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • michael@kjorling.se “The most dangerous thought that you can have as a creative person is to think you know what you’re doing.” (Bret Victor)