From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id e6cc89ea for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 18:24:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9893D9BD9E; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 04:24:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0E59BCD5; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 04:24:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 330309BCD5; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 04:24:12 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 398 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 04:24:11 AEST Received: from wopr.sciops.net (wopr.sciops.net [216.126.196.60]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FCFB9BCD0 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 04:24:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: (qmail 13045 invoked by uid 1001); 28 Aug 2019 11:17:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 11:17:27 -0700 From: Kurt H Maier To: Larry McVoy Message-ID: <20190828181727.GA82704@wopr> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Paul Winalski , TUHS main list References: <20190828172451.GX13570@mcvoy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190828172451.GX13570@mcvoy.com> Subject: Re: [TUHS] ISO, OSI, and DECnet (was Re: If not Linux, then what?) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 10:24:51AM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote: > > The great Mike Padlipski said "do you want protocols that look nice or > protocols that work nice?" in his fantastic book Elements of Networking > Style [*]. > This book taught me as much about navigating bureaucracy and the warning signs of impending death-by-committee as it did about networking. I keep a copy on my shelf at the office and annoy my staff with it regularly. It's also a wonderful time capsule that provides a lot of context about how we got where we are. khm