From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d47f2bc6 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 19:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 323BB9C0AA; Fri, 30 Aug 2019 05:26:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588979C07C; Fri, 30 Aug 2019 05:25:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 773A89C077; Fri, 30 Aug 2019 05:24:53 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 372 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Fri, 30 Aug 2019 05:24:52 AEST Received: from sdaoden.eu (sdaoden.eu [217.144.132.164]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7C119C078 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2019 05:24:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: by sdaoden.eu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A5B6416054; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 21:18:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 21:18:37 +0200 From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: Nemo Nusquam Message-ID: <20190829191837.JB08c%steffen@sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: <8cb953ef-ef6d-fdfa-76a4-1074cf46f598@gmail.com> References: <13c5c36e-c84d-e020-d09e-51c8c502dc6d@kilonet.net> <283e3cc2-42ec-a554-602f-5fb67eca9e40@gmail.com> <8cb953ef-ef6d-fdfa-76a4-1074cf46f598@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: Nemo Nusquam , tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.15-24-gef25e36d OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc; preference=signencrypt BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. Subject: Re: [TUHS] If not Linux, then what? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Nemo Nusquam wrote in <8cb953ef-ef6d-fdfa-76a4-1074cf46f598@gmail.com>: |On 08/28/19 18:27, William Pechter wrote (in part): |> On 8/28/2019 4:27 PM, Adam Thornton wrote: |>> I was an ardent OS/2 supporter for a long time. Sure, IBM's anemic |>> marketing, and their close-to-outright-hostility to 3rd-party |>> developers didn't help. But what killed it, really, was how damn |>> good its 16-bit support was. It *was* a better DOS than DOS and a |>> better Windows than 3.11fW. So no one wrote to the relatively tiny |>> market of 32-bit OS/2. |>> |> OS/2 was slick and if they could've kept the W\indows 3.x |> compatibility (the Win32S was a sliding target that Microsoft kept |> changing. There was a pretty decent Unix work-alike ported to the top |> of OS/2 that made most of the public domain and open source (the term |> didn't exist yet) stuff available. |> |> I could telnet into the box and run a pretty slick Unix work-alike shell. |Indeed -- forgive my nostalgia here... We were developing a DOS-based |PC-Card (often incorrectly called a PCMCIA card). With OS/2, you opened |up a DOS box. If the driver crashed, you just opened up another and went |on. Under Windoze, the whole box crashed (and sometimes took the |file-system with it). We used a combination of Eberhard Mattes' emx, |the MKS toolkit, and case-sensitive file-systems to give us a reasonable |approximation. For a few holiday weeks i once worked in the IBM factory in Mainz Germany in a hard disk production line clean room. One of the gauges were driven by OS/2 which not only catched my attention but also crashed randomly up to several times per shift, causing automatic reboots (reliably). (The factory as such was not worth it, it has been closed after fifty years, in the new Heiligkreuz Viertel (holy-cross quarter) there have been build 242 flats and a supermarket in the meantime.) I liked 4DOS. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)