From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id e82ff2f1 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 02:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 367339B902; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:44:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBC29478E; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:44:34 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1568429088; bh=NMwx0zDCKN2XAKWn43nDwCWc97uitDtGtSY1W4bsnpM=; h=Date:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: Cc:From; b=DHMUKnEaIM2xNOlaSNGE6rxyQ1/GmZNVDbR8uZHgmJhgB8L81dRZNaZM7F0KXthvQ AlgsdfInP9snxjrgprQ97c5jKFWsdRS4G+TziCEF6YtRJv1FOCdo16ZPp8Ez7L/H3Y tyUoScndzNFTeoMPPeXtQOiThIv9cws3MZI205Sg= Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 60BF39478E; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:44:33 +1000 (AEST) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:44:33 +1000 From: Warren Toomey To: Larry McVoy Message-ID: <20190914024433.GA19193@minnie.tuhs.org> References: <201909132024.x8DKObEP013266@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <463d5cc4-9bef-9ac3-a680-a5161d664dc1@aueb.gr> <20190913221345.GA16129@minnie.tuhs.org> <20190914020240.GO2046@mcvoy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190914020240.GO2046@mcvoy.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) Subject: Re: [TUHS] earliest Unix roff X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 07:02:40PM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote: > Roff has some pretty sophisticated stuff (environments come to mind) that > I think 99.9% of the CS world doesn't understand (sort of like my rant > on SCCS, most people didn't look hard enough to get it. I'm not sure > that I get roff environments to this day but I kinda do). > > I'd love to see the docs on that early stuff and see if Joe Ossanna > added in his own magic or was he carrying forward earlier magic. Here's a good page on the history: https://manpages.bsd.lv/history.html > P.S. I love this list for this stuff, I'm an old retired guy that > wishes he could have helped birth Unix. Hanging out with the people > who were there is super fun. Hell yeah to both! Cheers, Warren