From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 911dd652 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 94C2B9BF77; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 02:10:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098DE94793; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 02:10:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 35E1A94793; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 02:10:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDB839478D for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 02:10:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 87F5C35E11A; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 09:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 09:10:40 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Richard Salz Message-ID: <20190916161040.GM2046@mcvoy.com> References: <20190914020240.GO2046@mcvoy.com> <20190914024433.GA19193@minnie.tuhs.org> <2e84c4d0-5239-b223-856d-00aacf8d3028@andrewnesbit.org> <201909150654.x8F6sChG021185@freefriends.org> <201909160552.x8G5qBYK025195@freefriends.org> <20190916145122.GH2046@mcvoy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] earliest Unix roff X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 11:14:25AM -0400, Richard Salz wrote: > Is it any surprise that the early GNU effort was really trying to recreate > ITS? Can you really blame them? I'm grateful that they made `info` be a > standalone program. Putting the concept of "cursor position" into the > existing pagers (more/less/etc) and doing jump/xref/back would be more than > a stretch, IMO. It's what Clem said. You should acclimate yourself to your environment. Pushing info into man environment is a lot like being an immigrant and wanting to bring your laws into your new homeland. That isn't a thing and shouldn't be a thing. Doesn't matter that people think ITS is better, they are in Unix. If you think ITS is better, go live there. When in Rome....