From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id c08a13b3 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 10:51:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A0FCA9C039; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 20:51:31 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99174947CC; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 20:51:11 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=papnet.eu header.i=@papnet.eu header.b="R9qW361D"; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.b="q9zYL0GS"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1D5DF947CC; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 20:51:10 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 345 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 20:51:07 AEST Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEE33947A2 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 20:51:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B0121F85 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 06:45:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 17 Sep 2019 06:45:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=papnet.eu; h= date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=fm2; bh=PLixYH7CY7H7estVKlu1N0+E5wy CDejrFo307T7sbJY=; b=R9qW361Dv573GRWGLrKF06+wXIBb9lFRlLxr+/SwOn+ U2ljPbnZbqJE0ix3i/rNNtqMRfTSxNWHCzAaHFSpwlDEtuYf0NiIiLHdNQfi2zGQ QYY2ybJa3VGJeFxyxpu9lb23l/o+SvVjMHuqrW/RrWCkP9fc/Q34sG2hvwaVy6/O e0hHDQF04xIJGCj2q6zI16bHoRHIj6SIMyG7F03KZkQxtit6gfMqNqnrO/DdfdSg au6wTq8p9d101oX1qC7oCmkdpUv7VlQQT9yeyHNNeMBI6isF0Kfzc1YNlOPflRTa PeVkoP9JrlGf7HiMZ/Swuf5TYVDVljxG68vgQIzwqaw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=PLixYH 7CY7H7estVKlu1N0+E5wyCDejrFo307T7sbJY=; b=q9zYL0GSrQB4/yxC9murht MpJPE5pBXrDsftqFWX9MlI9q5K+Hrjk27CujTkH6SysdxkunrormqPe9+T418b2y mthAbXNlFqRtWA4ZucDbmMRw0XTx85oiG86DFpNhvwtjQXObbcVFqa00qPv7CBpl A9yM0MJhfhLEF7L/+QghqdAqtBpdAmfS7EgW+ZpDGTLl3RwN9ohBi3fZbKXGOUkt V7zjG7iOUoZvtCNiTmuT8KPp5iCyELmQV0h9jeT0z7xj1IKxH+tY5YWKmWuA0066 ZqjYeqjbzNDIZFbm6rIJBcbxGZMmD06W6WVzwyqrkiUuC5pPiupwifDFVC2y9sPw == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedrudeigddtiecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvffukfhfgggtuggjfgesthdtre dttdervdenucfhrhhomheptehnghgvlhhoucfrrghpvghnhhhofhhfuceorggrphesphgr phhnvghtrdgvuheqnecukfhppeejjedruddurdegrddugeenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilh hfrhhomheprggrphesphgrphhnvghtrdgvuhenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-ME-Proxy: Received: from indra.papnet.eu (x4d0b040e.dyn.telefonica.de [77.11.4.14]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id CB70780062 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 06:45:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 12:45:18 +0200 From: Angelo Papenhoff To: tuhs@tuhs.org Message-ID: <20190917104518.GA96058@indra.papnet.eu> References: <20190917095435.GA16333@minnie.tuhs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190917095435.GA16333@minnie.tuhs.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.0 (2016-04-01) Subject: Re: [TUHS] A Couple of New Unix Artifacts X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 17/09/19, Warren Toomey wrote: > I fear we're drifting a bit here and the S/N ratio is dropping a bit w.r.t > the actual history of Unix. Please no more on the relative merits of > version control systems or alternative text processing systems. > > So I'll try to distract you by saying this. I'm sitting on two artifacts > that have recently been given to me: > > + by two large organisations > + of great significance to Unix history > + who want me to keep "mum" about them > + as they are going to make announcements about them soon * > > and I am going slowly crazy as I wait for them to be offically released. > > Now you have a new topic to talk about :-) That sounds exciting! I wish we had more stuff of the v0-v4 era, but I don't know how likely that is to even still exist. Also the things that were documented in the manual but weren't in the distribution...old troff is something that comes to mind. We still have the source filenames in deleted directory entries in the v6 distribution.