From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,PLING_QUERY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id ff7009be for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 03:35:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id F309C9BB64; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 13:35:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AA0946B9; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 13:34:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 8E20E946B9; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 13:34:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3862793DBB for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 13:34:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id DF39635E134; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 20:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 20:34:48 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Richard Salz Message-ID: <20191012033448.GH3558@mcvoy.com> References: <20191010205546.GA29154@minnie.tuhs.org> <3d9ff257-8505-8792-abcf-fd44846b58f1@lycos.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] What was your "Aha, Unix!" moment? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:23:21PM -0400, Richard Salz wrote: > My first Unix-related AHA moment was working through the sample code in the > BSD 4.1c networking tutorial and having two unrelated processes that I > wrote communicate. Without a pipe! (I'd already used Unix for a few years > and didn't think twice, it was just a natural fit. But sockets, woah.) Sockets woah indeed. Shout out to Clem and the Masscomp doc people because they, not UW Madison that was doing all sorts of good work, the Masscomp docs got me to understand sockets. Richard, I get it, it is a light bulb moment when you realize that you can get two unrelated processes talk to each other. It bumps your understanding of what is possible. Which today seems lame, there is so much, but I get it, back then that was huge.