From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,PLING_QUERY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 8ecb2f84 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 04:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id AAB959BB64; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 14:43:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F55946B9; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 14:42:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 34349946B9; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 14:42:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail.cs.Dartmouth.EDU (mail.cs.dartmouth.edu [129.170.212.100]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFDC493DBB for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 14:42:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: from coolidge.cs.Dartmouth.EDU (coolidge.cs.dartmouth.edu [129.170.213.217]) by mail.cs.Dartmouth.EDU (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x9C4ggBP004559 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 00:42:42 -0400 Received: from coolidge.cs.Dartmouth.EDU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by coolidge.cs.Dartmouth.EDU (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x9C4ggK5021950 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 00:42:42 -0400 Received: (from doug@localhost) by coolidge.cs.Dartmouth.EDU (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x9C4ggMF021949 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 00:42:42 -0400 From: Doug McIlroy Message-Id: <201910120442.x9C4ggMF021949@coolidge.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 00:42:42 -0400 To: tuhs@tuhs.org User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] What was your "Aha, Unix!" moment? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" For a contrast in aha moments, consider this introduction to an early Apple (Apple II, I think). When my wife got one, my natural curiosity led me to try to make "Hello world". I asked her what to use as an editor and learned it all depends on what you're editing. So I looked in the manual. First thing you do to make a C program is to set up a "project", as if it was a corporate undertaking. I found it easier to write a program in some other editor than the one for C. Bad idea. Every file had a type and that editor produced files of some type other than C program. After succumbing to the Apple straitjacket, I succeeded. Then I found "Hello world" given as an example in the manual. The code took up almost a page; real men make programs that set up their own windows. Aha, Apple! Not intended for programmers. And that didn't change until OS X. Doug