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From: arnold@skeeve.com
To: clemc@ccc.com, arnold@skeeve.com
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Unix, IBM, 370
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 01:05:55 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201911030705.xA375twJ013107@freefriends.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2Pz5d4n3ZDhP85d0dX97jLUi=kDKDKdNMZdw2D32Mk72w@mail.gmail.com>

Thaks Clem.

Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 7:11 AM <arnold@skeeve.com> wrote:
>
> > Tom,
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > AIX/370 existed and I *think* would boot on bare metal instead of running
> > on top of VM.  I don't know what, if any, relationship it had to the
> > Locus work. (In the late '80s I worked at a university computing center
> > with VMS, Suns, and IBM gear; so I'm recalling what I heard. I never
> > actually saw AIX/370 running.)
> >
> AIX/370 and AIX/386 were done for IBM under contract by Locus Computing
> Corporation (a.k.a. LCC)
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locus_Computing_Corporation> .  And yes,
> most customers that I knew ran it bare metal.

Glad to know that I remembered correctly.

In the early 90s I worked teaching multi-vendor Unix courses. One
frustration was that AIX on the 370 and AIX on the PS/2 were essentially
the same as each other but very different from AIX on the RS/6000
machines.  A co-worker and I wrote a short essay about if IBM made
cooking equipment:

	The IBM Industrial Furnace and the IBM camping stove
	would be almost, but not quite entirely, totally different
	from the IBM Home Oven.

Or something like that. I can't find the original.

> Because of TCF (Transparent Computing Facility), PS/2 based PC were
> clustered with the 370s, under a single system image (i.e. up to 32
> processors of any time, looked to the world like a single processor).   The
> OS looked at the binary and found a properly provisioned system in the
> cluster to execute it.  So you could have require option hardware that only
> one node might have, and the process would be migrated to that node.  It
> also meant nodes could and be added and removed dynamically.

Very cool.

> The ideas were recreated as 14 different technologies called Transparent
> Network Computing (TNC) that would end up in the FOSS community and added
> to Linux 2x kernel as: OpenSSI <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSSI>

Am I wrong, or does nobody actually use this today? The opessi.org
home page link from Wikipedia just seems to hang. And the files on the
SourceForge page are 5 years old.

Thanks,

Arnold

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-03  7:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-29  4:04 Warren Toomey
2019-10-29  5:07 ` Warner Losh
2019-10-29  5:19 ` Adam Thornton
2019-10-29  7:14   ` SPC
2019-10-29 15:10     ` Warner Losh
2019-10-29 15:22       ` SPC
2019-11-05  4:12   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-10-31  3:56 ` Tom Lyon
2019-10-31  4:16   ` Larry McVoy
2019-10-31  7:51   ` arnold
2019-10-31 13:51     ` Tom Lyon
2019-10-31 14:10       ` arnold
2019-10-31 14:22         ` Larry McVoy
2019-10-31 14:24         ` SPC
2019-10-31 15:31         ` Charles H Sauer
2019-11-01 16:52         ` Clem Cole
2019-11-03  7:05           ` arnold [this message]
2019-11-03 21:16             ` Clem Cole
2019-11-04 14:43               ` arnold
2019-11-05 14:15                 ` Clem Cole
2019-10-31 15:10       ` Heinz Lycklama
2019-11-01 16:40       ` Clem Cole
2019-10-31  8:09   ` SPC
2019-10-31 15:12   ` Warner Losh
2019-11-03  1:02   ` Kevin Bowling

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