From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 44be7adf for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 00:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6DA589C142; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 10:06:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E9C93D33; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 10:06:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4C1E993D33; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 10:06:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 681FE93D2E for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 10:06:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from callcc.thunk.org (ip-12-2-52-196.nyc.us.northamericancoax.com [196.52.2.12]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id xA6065Wc003991 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 5 Nov 2019 19:06:07 -0500 Received: by callcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id 73ADA420311; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 19:06:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 19:06:00 -0500 From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" To: Charles H Sauer Message-ID: <20191106000600.GD26959@mit.edu> References: <86352c85-1b06-6035-de4a-5b5a64f1cf98@technologists.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86352c85-1b06-6035-de4a-5b5a64f1cf98@technologists.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) Subject: Re: [TUHS] one element of one of M factions of N companies [Re: Amdahl UTS, AIX/370, AIX/ESA X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Tue, Nov 05, 2019 at 04:11:11PM -0600, Charles H Sauer wrote: > It has been illuminating, surprising, but not shocking, the last week of so, > to learn from from posts here, that AIX/370 was hard to get and mostly a > university offering. What we (AIX people associated with RT/PC and then > RS/6000) were told was that "everybody", especially Federal customers, > wanted what became known as TCF (the original Locus work) for 370 and PS/2. > I remember one Federal Systems Division person who seemed especially > effective as a Locus advocate. I'd always assumed AIX/370 and AIX PS/2 > became more available than reported here, but I left IBM before they were > released. > > Enumerating factions/companies, just regarding AIX & Unix, there were the > Federal Systems faction/company, the academic factions/company (primarily > two factions, BSD & TCF, in Palo Alto), the PS/2 faction/company, the > Rochester System/38->AS/400 faction/company, the Austin development lab, > several Research locations (primarily Yorktown), ... > There was also AOS (Academic Operating System) which was basically repackaged BSD 4.x ported to the IBM/RT PC[1]. At MIT's Project Athena, most people massively preferred it to AIX, but we were force marched to AIX by 1987 or 1988. :-/ [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_RT_PC#Software - Ted