From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 33b75ce9 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2020 02:38:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id DB14E9BB70; Tue, 7 Jan 2020 12:38:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692F09BB66; Tue, 7 Jan 2020 12:38:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CA8C29BB66; Tue, 7 Jan 2020 12:38:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 799579BB4A for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2020 12:38:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 331A135E0A7; Mon, 6 Jan 2020 18:38:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 18:38:34 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Doug McIlroy Message-ID: <20200107023834.GN20269@mcvoy.com> References: <202001070231.0072ViZp123105@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202001070231.0072ViZp123105@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] screen editors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 09:31:44PM -0500, Doug McIlroy wrote: > > but???damn, even ex/vi 3.x is huge > > It was so excesssive right from the start that I refused to use it. > Sam was the first screen editor that I deemed worthwhile, and I > still use it today. I grew up on 4MB Suns. Emacs was "8 megs and constantly swapping". I thought vi was fine though I did do a lot with xvi (I think that was what it was called) and I hacked it to use mmap to look at the file. I had to do something about strings to make that work, don't remember, but it worked and I could vi 4MB log files and search them pretty fast. I'm a vi guy to this day. Love it.