From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 97f2931f for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 06:35:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 601679BCD5; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 16:35:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D6C9BCA9; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 16:35:26 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ewe2.ninja header.i=@ewe2.ninja header.b="lQtSCELg"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 107AE9BCA9; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 16:35:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail.ewe2.ninja (ewe2.ninja [38.240.3.172]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84DA0945FC for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 16:35:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail.ewe2.ninja (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4BD4740F51; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 01:35:20 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ewe2.ninja; s=mail; t=1578465321; bh=sEwFj1GH3FU6cFHSzLvAh+LKapHLfhfss1z/cZtiwm0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=lQtSCELgYTNQPBw+5iSDUvX1QhCp7XOgRWrUJZwClupzSzW+8eVYeP6fqfgv4kSK4 blbca7wh4YfZSLFiz7BdVTK2MLEfTLIYo79IJWQQpXdJT3Zk8YJ060Qs9xK+NIROmC DK5f7SbQ2WuJiuJVDqQC0DqE9yrVZjlbZem4DdkegVWO2DAGD3IEZUAABL43Mcqb/1 zFJZBXn2HtFG/vB4Q5sCNXarXEP1DgN/nYs5E1LdcbOOCKmNuCjg6/wvL/zWWxDUbF Eq5wDKgqF/WC9weCj3651jE7fsr9Rh9oTfeQXuXS991PHi1ggLeUNZ6+lZl4F+e0jh ngMP58cfBEXeQ== Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 01:35:20 -0500 To: Clem Cole Message-ID: <20200108063520.GA24350@mail.ewe2.ninja> References: <42cf63eb-d51e-d1ab-34ed-fbff94e18999@gmail.com> <682F5EA8-A1D2-4A5A-933F-C46B3631030E@gmail.com> <20200107200447.GA3211@mail.ewe2.ninja> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Homepage: https://ewe2.ninja X-Operating-System: Linux, kernel 5.2.0-3-amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) Subject: Re: [TUHS] wump.c for v6 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Sean Dwyer via TUHS Reply-To: Sean Dwyer Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 04:08:08PM -0500, Clem Cole wrote: > I will place a bet it is not your v6b idea... (which was basically V6 plus > Ken's patch tape - although as Noel and I have decoded some of PWB 1.0 - > which was based on V6 too -- made it into the wild in a couple of places). > Anyway, I think you are seeing code output from what was called the > 'Typesetter C" compiler release which came out before V7 and was needed to > compile troff *et al.* which actually what conforms with the original > K&R. Indeed, that compiler used libS as the library. Ahh, that adds an extra wrinkle to the proceedings :) I wasn't aware of this version, I was just going on what I disassembled and what I could dig up from unix sources, but neither am I too surprised that there were intermediate steps in between! > So, unless anyone else can illuminate, I'm not sure where the first cpp > that some of us using v6 had originated. > It is as you note, a very confused picture where there was a lot of activity from several different sources. It's pretty amazing to look at the UNSW and Usenet archives and see the sheer volume of device and library hacks that were going on during the v5 and v6 period alone. On a related question, do we know that sources for code such as the ching binaries was at least around at the time of the 32V port? I'm unsure when the sources were lost, was that after V7? A reason I ask is that phx basically remained untouched but the 32V version of cno was definitely changed in the early BSDs, although it may have been a binary patch. -- I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise as they fly by.