From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id b8f29bad for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 03:34:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D38039BCC9; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 13:34:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE789BCA9; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 13:34:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 35E689BCA9; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 13:34:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6873945FC for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 13:34:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 6E30235E0AB; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 19:34:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 19:34:18 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Mary Ann Horton Message-ID: <20200109033418.GI16808@mcvoy.com> References: <20200109012830.GC16808@mcvoy.com> <20200109020720.GG16808@mcvoy.com> <4b810af6-1880-92c2-ef22-4029643d5225@mhorton.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4b810af6-1880-92c2-ef22-4029643d5225@mhorton.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] screen editors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" +1 On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 07:27:13PM -0800, Mary Ann Horton wrote: > vim has an option to undo the vi way. "set cpoptions=u". There is a full set > of vi-compatible options if you want them. "set cp" turns on full vi > compatiblity. > > Funny, I see vim as the vi that comes with UNIX, and never learned the > enhancements, but I just tried it out and I don't have the compatibility > option set. I don't seem to have noticed. I guess I don't do the "undo > toggle" all that often. > > ?????? Mary Ann > > On 1/8/20 6:12 PM, Clem Cole wrote: > >make a new command, don't break the old one....?? maybe offer a way to map > >the new one over the old -- but don't make it the default. > >and my lawn was lush and green before the snow came ;-) > > > > > > > >On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 9:07 PM Larry McVoy >> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 09:04:46PM -0500, Clem Cole wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 8:41 PM Bakul Shah > > wrote: > > > > > > > The first thing I do on a new machine is to install nvi. Very > > grateful to > > > > Keith Bostic for implementing it. I do use multiple windows > > ??? only > > > > horizontal splits but that is good enough for me as all my > > terminal > > > > windows are 80 chars wide. Not a vim hater but never saw the need. > > > > > > I pretty much do the same thing. I think what I hate about vim > > is that it's > > > almost, vi but not the same. My fingers screw up when I use it.?? For > > > instance, he 'fixed' undo. > > > > Holy crap Clem, you need to embrace that.?? His undo goes back forever. > > And you can undo the undo and go forward forever. > > > > Not liking that puts you in the "get off my lawn" old guy camp.?? Which > > is fine if that's who you want to be (sometimes I'm that guy). > > -- --- Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com http://www.mcvoy.com/lm