From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 27cdffb5 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 08:30:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4CA9F9BCD5; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 18:30:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87BC49BCB6; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 18:30:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id DF099945FC; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 18:30:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39368945FC for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 18:30:05 +1000 (AEST) X-Envelope-From: arnold@skeeve.com Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 0098U2fZ019547 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Jan 2020 01:30:03 -0700 Received: (from arnold@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 0098U2nq019546; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 01:30:02 -0700 From: arnold@skeeve.com Message-Id: <202001090830.0098U2nq019546@freefriends.org> X-Authentication-Warning: frenzy.freefriends.org: arnold set sender to arnold@skeeve.com using -f Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2020 01:30:02 -0700 To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org, mah@mhorton.net References: <202001070231.0072ViZp123105@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <20200107023834.GN20269@mcvoy.com> <202001071630.007GUrBj030452@freefriends.org> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] screen editors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Mary Ann Horton wrote: > Nearly everyone at Bell Labs (outside area 11) was using either vi or > emacs, but System III just had ed. There was a big push to add vi or > emacs to UNIX 3.0 (System III), but USG instead chose to write se, the > "screen editor" and put it in UNIX 4.0. Nobody would use it, so UNIX 5.0 > (System V) relented and included vi. Thanks for confirming that se existed in Unix 4.0, as I remember it. I used it some; the only thing I remember about it was that the command line was at the top of the screen. I must have been disappointed with it, because I ended up doing most of my contract programming work in ed. :-) It'd be interesting to see the source for this 'se', but it's probably lost forever. Arnold