From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 9fa59a3d for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 19:01:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 5B1349B880; Fri, 10 Jan 2020 05:01:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E36C93D07; Fri, 10 Jan 2020 05:01:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1579893D07; Fri, 10 Jan 2020 05:01:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from fourwinds.com (fourwinds.com [63.64.179.162]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7C1B93D06 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2020 05:01:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourwinds.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 009J1S3P520953 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 11:01:28 -0800 Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (jon@localhost) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 009J1StW520950 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 11:01:28 -0800 Message-Id: <202001091901.009J1StW520950@darkstar.fourwinds.com> From: Jon Steinhart To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-reply-to: <20200109185327.GJ16808@mcvoy.com> References: <20200109012830.GC16808@mcvoy.com> <20200109020720.GG16808@mcvoy.com> <202001090423.0094NooZ379407@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <202001091721.009HLf2V503811@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20200109185327.GJ16808@mcvoy.com> Comments: In-reply-to Larry McVoy message dated "Thu, 09 Jan 2020 10:53:27 -0800." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <520948.1578596488.1@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2020 11:01:28 -0800 X-JON-SPAM: local delivery Subject: Re: [TUHS] screen editors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Larry McVoy writes: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 09:21:40AM -0800, Jon Steinhart wrote: > > It's for that reason that I hate the addition of multiple windows to vi. > > That's just silly. I frequently open two panes on the same file. Lets > compare: > > Your way: > - click to open a new terminal > - click on it because it's not where I want, move it > - cd to where ever I am > - vi whatever > > My way: > :sp > > You are welcome to your opinion but to argue that multiple panes in > vi aren't useful, fine, maybe not to you. Don't use them. Other > people love that feature, that feature is why I tried emacs many > years ago. Yes, that is my opinion and clearly yours is different. Being as I have a huge hi-res screen, I often have other windows open and ready to do, so all I have to do is move the mouse. But really to me you're opening yet another can of worms, which is what I call the "string theory school of design" where every new program creates its own universe instead of functioning in the existing one. I'm working on a demonstration project to illuminate a different path, but it's gonna be a while before I have something to show. Jon