From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 946c174d for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2020 21:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 757649BD78; Mon, 13 Jan 2020 07:42:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB59D9BD0F; Mon, 13 Jan 2020 07:41:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 576599BD0F; Mon, 13 Jan 2020 07:41:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail.bitblocks.com (ns1.bitblocks.com [173.228.5.8]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E238D9BCA8 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2020 07:41:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: from bitblocks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bitblocks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9824C156E42D for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2020 13:41:45 -0800 (PST) To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Jan 2020 12:44:30 -0800." <202001122044.00CKiUNV573279@darkstar.fourwinds.com> References: <202001121343.00CDhYHK132101@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <202001122034.00CKYQ39571239@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <202001122044.00CKiUNV573279@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Comments: In-reply-to Jon Steinhart message dated "Sun, 12 Jan 2020 12:44:30 -0800." From: Bakul Shah MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <81321.1578865305.1@bitblocks.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 13:41:45 -0800 Message-Id: <20200112214152.9824C156E42D@mail.bitblocks.com> Subject: Re: [TUHS] Tech Sq elevator (Was: screen editors) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 12:44:30 -0800 Jon Steinhart wrote: > > I wasn't being snarky. You said > > "The output is seen as truth because the representation is for some > reason too hard to get at or too hard to cascade through the system." > > I honestly have no idea what that means. > > Likewise, > > "There's a total comedy of work going on in the unix way of > a wc pipeline versus calling a length function on a list." > > I just don't know what you mean. May be this is not what Kevin meant but the way I interpreted his message: smushing everything down to strings for output as in unix pipelines loses any underlying structure which then may have to be rediscovered by the next program in the pipeline by parsing. This is slower, indirect and errorprone. If one can communicate a structured representation of data between components that would be better.