From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 82623c35 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 04:19:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 67BBE9C0FA; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 14:19:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C109C0FB; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 14:19:17 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 887989BDD8; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 14:19:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from lax.lemis.com (www.lemis.com [45.32.70.18]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5259BD25 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 14:19:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from eureka.lemis.com (167-179-139-35.a7b38b.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net [167.179.139.35]) by lax.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D169B281B5; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 04:19:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eureka.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29DCC263593; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 15:19:13 +1100 (AEDT) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 15:19:13 +1100 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" Message-ID: <20200118041913.GB67053@eureka.lemis.com> References: <20200117195908.GF15253@ancienthardware.org> <20200118035051.GC481935@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XOIedfhf+7KOe/yw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200118035051.GC481935@mit.edu> Organization: LEMIS, 29 Stones Road, Dereel, VIC, Australia Phone: +61-3-5309-0418 Mobile: +61-490-494-038. Use only as instructed. WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) Subject: [TUHS] Early Linux and BSD (was: On the origins of Linux - "an academic question") X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: UNIX Heritage Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --XOIedfhf+7KOe/yw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Friday, 17 January 2020 at 22:50:51 -0500, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: > > In the super-early days (late 1991, early 1992), those of us who > worked on it just wanted a "something Unix-like" that we could run at > home (my first computer was a 40 MHz 386 with 16 MB of memory). This > was before the AT&T/BSD Lawsuit (which was in 1992) and while Jolitz > may have been demonstrating 386BSD in private, I was certainly never > aware of it At the start of this time, Bill was working for BSDI, who were preparing a commercial product that (in March 1992) became BSD/386. As Rob Kolstad told me in mid-1992, he had a (to put it mildly) difference of opinion with Rob, and probably others, about the commercial nature (at the time BSD/386 cost $1000), and he resigned at the end of 1991. So 386BSD presumably didn't exist before that. On the other hand, Bill did write the articles in Dr. Dobbs Journal, which started in January 1991, so my best guess is that Linus just wasn't informed about the developments. It's easy to forget how difficult it was to get this kind of information in those days. I was informed about the articles, but more by chance than anything else. I didn't find out about BSD/386 until March 1992, when the first betas were released. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA --XOIedfhf+7KOe/yw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAl4ih0EACgkQIubykFB6QiP1hgCgiSDsG/YzXRktVpbdcJhsru11 9rQAnif+OFqab+2Bj8sSDsBJtuD5fC2U =otMw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XOIedfhf+7KOe/yw--