From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 4cd7a351 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 15:37:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id F41B59C0FD; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 01:37:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E6D9C0F8; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 01:37:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2DA7F9C105; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 01:37:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B8D39C0F8 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 01:37:25 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 409BE35E0B8; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 07:37:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 07:37:25 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Clem Cole Message-ID: <20200118153725.GD28686@mcvoy.com> References: <20200109012830.GC16808@mcvoy.com> <20200109020720.GG16808@mcvoy.com> <202001090423.0094NooZ379407@darkstar.fourwinds.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] screen editors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:13:45PM -0500, Clem Cole wrote: > On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 9:35 PM Michael Parson wrote: > > > It's like 99% compatible. > > Exactly... As my old (non-PC) 10th-grade calculus teacher used to say, > "I'll give you partial credit when you can bring be me a female that is > partially pregnant." > > To be you are either compatible or not. I would have been ok to have had > an option that you could turn on that gave you new behavior (but make the > user turn it on thank you). It's rare event when I disagree with you, Clem (sometimes it seems like we were separated at birth :) If it was compat by default then you wouldn't learn any of the new stuff. set compatible isn't that hard but we'd have to read docs to find that. Anyhoo, cross reference to Ted's thought that Linux didn't have to deal with the Gods of BSD so they could rip stuff out and try again, his point is that worked better than the BSD way. Compat is fine but if you want progress, sometimes you break compat. For me, I've got a .exrc that I've been carrying around for decades (has maps in it for some compat bindings to an editor I used on CP/M, it's _that_ old) and vim is perfectly happy with it. I mostly use vim as a vi compat but I regularly use 2 panes, that's super useful. It's progress and you can have compat mode easily, seems like a win.