From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 4afe8f91 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 00:45:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6FC569C15A; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 10:45:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF24F9C0FD; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 10:44:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C95249C0FD; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 10:44:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail.bitblocks.com (ns1.bitblocks.com [173.228.5.8]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F359BFE6 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 10:44:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from bitblocks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bitblocks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5AD156E448; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 16:44:32 -0800 (PST) To: Clem Cole In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 20 Jan 2020 12:19:25 -0500." References: <20200117195908.GF15253@ancienthardware.org> <20200118035051.GC481935@mit.edu> <20200118041913.GB67053@eureka.lemis.com> <20200119024900.GA15860@mit.edu> <20200119031225.GI67053@eureka.lemis.com> <20200119035808.GK67053@eureka.lemis.com> <20200119132551.GC15860@mit.edu> Comments: In-reply-to Clem Cole message dated "Mon, 20 Jan 2020 12:19:25 -0500." From: Bakul Shah MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <28088.1579567472.1@bitblocks.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 16:44:32 -0800 Message-Id: <20200121004439.4A5AD156E448@mail.bitblocks.com> Subject: Re: [TUHS] Early Linux and BSD (was: On the origins of Linux - "an academic question") X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 12:19:25 -0500 Clem Cole wrote: > > I bring this all up in hopes to try to close this rat hole of Linux, *vs*. Ha! > *BSD. Like editors, we all have our own favorites. That's cool, we don't > want one thing to be forced down our throat. Having a choice is what is > good. And what I value, Larry or Jon may not necessarily like. Most of > us if not all on this list probably want something that approximates Ken > and Dennis's original ideas not what IBM, DEC, CDC were trying to make us > use in the old days or what Microsoft calls a system today. I want an *evolution* of their original ideas. Instead we have significantly more complicated systems which may be more efficient but certainly a lot more bloaty and less flexible (with a few exceptions). [Ties in with the single system idea] > The discussion of how we got there and what people valued at the time is > useful so we can try to remember the history and learn from it; but getting > into right/wrong, good/bad, or you could have had this is a tad tiresome; > IMO. +1