From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 9fff1019 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 15:29:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9D37E9D52F; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 01:29:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4378A9D518; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 01:28:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 261C29D518; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 01:28:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9AF19CD7A for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 01:28:52 +1000 (AEST) X-Envelope-From: arnold@skeeve.com Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 01IFSocN030832 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 18 Feb 2020 08:28:51 -0700 Received: (from arnold@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 01IFSogM030831; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 08:28:50 -0700 From: arnold@skeeve.com Message-Id: <202002181528.01IFSogM030831@freefriends.org> X-Authentication-Warning: frenzy.freefriends.org: arnold set sender to arnold@skeeve.com using -f Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 08:28:50 -0700 To: tuhs@tuhs.org, clemc@ccc.com References: <202002171520.01HFKqKi026749@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <4d252035b323b7583c5760c952d1982c@firemail.de> <202002171839.01HId8FT1358073@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <202002180017.01I0HI0I1415945@darkstar.fourwinds.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] man Macro Package and pdfmark X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Clem Cole wrote: > ditroff was always >>open source<< and any licensee could get it and see > it. The problem you are suggesting is that it was not >>free<< i.e. FOSS. I don't like your use of "open source"; it is way out of skew with how it's used today. > AT&T licensed it with a small set of fees. IIRC $1K for the first CPU, an > $50 for each and redistribution license was $10K and $5/system. That was very painful for universities and/or small businesses. Sure Sun and Masscomp could afford that. Your average computing center / computer science department / startup would have to think twice or thrice. Per CPU licensing was particularly painful if you had a bunch of workstations. Arnold