From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 868ff4d4 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 04:52:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C44449D52E; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 14:52:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE359CCBA; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 14:52:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 8B5429CCBA; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 14:52:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from lax.lemis.com (www.lemis.com [45.32.70.18]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4159CCAB for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 14:52:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from eureka.lemis.com (aussie-gw.lemis.com [167.179.139.35]) by lax.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01EF280C7; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 04:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eureka.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E98A6263595; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:52:21 +1100 (AEDT) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:52:21 +1100 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Steve Nickolas Message-ID: <20200219045221.GF2324@eureka.lemis.com> References: <202002171839.01HId8FT1358073@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <202002180017.01I0HI0I1415945@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <202002181528.01IFSogM030831@freefriends.org> <20200218164031.GA147128@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1Y7d0dPL928TPQbc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: LEMIS, 29 Stones Road, Dereel, VIC, Australia Phone: +61-3-5309-0418 Mobile: +61-490-494-038. Use only as instructed. WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) Subject: [TUHS] Open source or free software? (was: man Macro Package and pdfmark) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --1Y7d0dPL928TPQbc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday, 18 February 2020 at 13:39:22 -0500, Steve Nickolas wrote: > > I always understood "open source" to mean this: you have access to the > code, you can share it, you can modify it, and any combination of the > above (including commercial exploitation; basically a restatement of > Stallman's freedoms in simpler words). I don't see those words as simpler. Ask any (wo)man in the street what free software is, and they'll come up with a reasonable approximation. As them what open source is and far fewer will know. At the very best it's only intelligible in a limited environment. And of course here in Australia, Open Sauce is a completely different homonym. rms won't touch it either: https://lemis.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/grog/Photos/20100916/small/rms-meets-open-sauce-detail.jpeg Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA --1Y7d0dPL928TPQbc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAl5MvwUACgkQIubykFB6QiN6NgCdFRONVMZEFcHd0rmRoy5mzFBE igoAoKRbzxYw7rfKYIAN27CDx/nNCSLp =KZwk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1Y7d0dPL928TPQbc--