From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 5ff4aed1 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 07:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 8A40893DC0; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 17:27:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4748A93D2D; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 17:27:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 75B7593D2D; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 17:27:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A558593D1B for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 17:27:17 +1000 (AEST) X-Envelope-From: arnold@skeeve.com Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 01K7RFiS014314 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 20 Feb 2020 00:27:15 -0700 Received: (from arnold@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 01K7RFwj014313; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 00:27:15 -0700 From: arnold@skeeve.com Message-Id: <202002200727.01K7RFwj014313@freefriends.org> X-Authentication-Warning: frenzy.freefriends.org: arnold set sender to arnold@skeeve.com using -f Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 00:27:15 -0700 To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org, mphuff@gmail.com References: <202002171520.01HFKqKi026749@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <4d252035b323b7583c5760c952d1982c@firemail.de> <202002171839.01HId8FT1358073@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <202002180017.01I0HI0I1415945@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20200219044444.GO30841@mcvoy.com> <615399517.295857.1582135972871@email.ionos.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] man Macro Package and pdfmark X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Michael Huff wrote: > It was said earlier that SunOS included a compiler, but it was dropped > in Solaris. Was it possible for people to carry over the old SunOS > compiler and use it on Solaris? Did people do that, or did they just > have their companies spring for the actual Solaris compiler? Early Solaris would not run SunOS binaries; that was fixed later on. People could then move the SunOS compiler over to Solaris. That was less helpful that it might seem, as it was a K&R compiler. But it could be used to bootstrap GCC and then one could go on from there. As Larry and others have pointed out, the unbundling of various components was a big mistake by the vendors. It just made users angry and motivated them to switch to other Unix systems. Also, early Solaris was a dog. Performance was poor. It improved over time, but it wasn't until around Solaris 2.4 or 2.5 that running it wasn't painful. Arnold