From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 4f7cb35c for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 17:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B272D93DA6; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 03:00:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999F593D2D; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 03:00:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4E0B793D1B; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 03:00:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD91993D2D for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 03:00:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 6522535E141; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 09:00:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 09:00:06 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Nemo Message-ID: <20200220170006.GM30841@mcvoy.com> References: <202002180017.01I0HI0I1415945@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20200219044444.GO30841@mcvoy.com> <615399517.295857.1582135972871@email.ionos.co.uk> <202002200727.01K7RFwj014313@freefriends.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] man Macro Package and pdfmark X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 11:48:03AM -0500, Nemo wrote: > On 20/02/2020, arnold@skeeve.com wrote (in part): > > Also, early Solaris was a dog. Performance was poor. It improved over > > time, but it wasn't until around Solaris 2.4 or 2.5 that running it wasn't painful. > > I recall that Sun salesfolk came in to sell us something-or-other and > freely admitted that Slowlaris did not improve until dtrace came > along, at which point Sun dived into system calls. I was the lead guy on Sun's first cluster product, I developed it on SunOS 4.x but Scott wouldn't let me ship that, it had to be Solaris. Which screwed performance, it was an NFS server so all that traffic was going through STREAMS, it was awful. I gave a pitch for that product at the Moscone center and had to endure heckle after heckle about 5.x vs 4.x. I toed the party line for as long as I could and finally I had enough and said something like "I know. 5.x sucks, it just does, but that's what I have to ship with." It was taped. Ken Okin, my boss and senior VP of all server hardware, heard the tape, came to me and said "Find and destroy all copies of that tape. Now!" It was not a fun time.