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From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To: Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Command line options and complexity
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 11:36:47 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200313003647.GM89512@eureka.lemis.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.2003121556570.81070@aneurin.horsfall.org>

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On Thursday, 12 March 2020 at 16:22:01 +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>
>> A good example.  But you're not removing options, you're just redefining
>> them.  In fact I find the -h option particularly emetic, so a better
>> choice in removing options would be to remove -h and use a filter to
>> mutilate the sizes:
>>
>>  $ ls -l | humanize
>
> I also had something like that in mind, except being British/Australian
> I'd spell it with an "s" :-)

It's a common misconception that -ize is US English.  The Oxford
English Dictionary, normally not prescriptive, prefers it.  See
https://www.oed.com/page/faqs/Frequently+asked+questions#spell.  I
personally had -ise drummed out of me by my uncle, very much
Australian.

>> And then there's the question why you don't like the standard output.
>> Because the number strings are too long and difficult to read, maybe?
>> That's the rationale for the -, option.
>
> More than likely; as I approach age 68 I notice that I'm losing some
> cognitive facility...  I might start using "," and see if I like it, but I
> see that the Mac doesn't have it (my Penguin is off the air at the
> moment), and having it as an environment variable would be nice.

Yes, currently only FreeBSD has it.  But you have the sources.  Apart
from option handling, it's only:

--- print.c     (.../head/bin/ls/print.c)       (revision 241014)
+++ print.c     (.../stable/10/bin/ls/print.c)  (working copy)
@@ -606,6 +606,10 @@
                humanize_number(buf, sizeof(buf), (int64_t)bytes, "",
                    HN_AUTOSCALE, HN_B | HN_NOSPACE | HN_DECIMAL);
                (void)printf("%*s ", (u_int)width, buf);
+       } else if (f_thousands) {               /* with commas */
+               /* This format assignment needed to work round gcc bug. */
+               const char *format = "%*j'd ";
+               (void)printf(format, (u_int)width, bytes);
        } else
                (void)printf("%*jd ", (u_int)width, bytes);
 }

A quick and dirty fix would be simply to replace the format string.

Greg
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-03-13  0:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-03 18:15 Jon Steinhart
2020-03-03 18:44 ` Adam Thornton
2020-03-04  4:11   ` Tyler Adams
2020-03-04  6:03     ` Dave Horsfall
2020-03-04  6:48       ` arnold
2020-03-04 21:17         ` Dave Horsfall
2020-03-05  0:49         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2020-03-05 20:54           ` Dave Horsfall
2020-03-05 22:01             ` William Cheswick
2020-03-04 21:50   ` Random832
2020-03-04 23:19     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-03-05  6:12     ` Alan D. Salewski
2020-03-04 22:03   ` Random832
2020-03-04 23:25     ` Terry Jones
2020-03-10 23:03 ` Dan Stromberg
2020-03-11  3:18   ` Dave Horsfall
2020-03-11  4:02     ` Steve Nickolas
2020-03-11 22:56     ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-03-11 23:14       ` Dan Cross
2020-03-12  0:42         ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-03-12  0:53       ` Steve Nickolas
2020-03-12  3:09         ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-03-12  3:34           ` Steve Nickolas
2020-03-13  1:02             ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-03-12  5:38         ` Dave Horsfall
2020-03-12  6:48         ` Peter Jeremy
2020-03-12  7:37           ` Steve Nickolas
2020-03-12  7:42             ` Warner Losh
2020-03-12 23:57           ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-03-12  5:22       ` Dave Horsfall
2020-03-12  5:35         ` Steve Nickolas
2020-03-13  0:36         ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey [this message]
2020-03-13 11:26           ` Dave Horsfall
2020-03-14  2:13           ` Greg A. Woods
2020-03-14  4:31             ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-03-04 14:06 Nelson H. F. Beebe
2020-03-04 16:17 ` John P. Linderman
2020-03-04 17:25   ` Bakul Shah
2020-03-05  0:55   ` Rob Pike
2020-03-05  2:05   ` Kurt H Maier
2020-03-05  4:17     ` Ken Thompson via TUHS
2020-03-05 14:53       ` Dan Cross
2020-03-05 21:50       ` Dave Horsfall
2020-03-05 21:56         ` Warner Losh
2020-03-08  5:26           ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-03-08  5:32             ` Jon Steinhart
2020-03-08  9:30               ` Tyler Adams
     [not found]                 ` <CAC0cEp8eFRkkLTw88WVaKZoKy+qsrhuC8LkzmmsbqtdZgMf8eQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                   ` <CAEuQd1D7+dfap98AwPo2W41+06prrcVaAWk3Ve-ve0uQ0xBu3Q@mail.gmail.com>
2020-03-09 21:06                     ` John P. Linderman
2020-03-09 21:22                       ` Kurt H Maier
2020-03-11 17:41                         ` John P. Linderman
2020-03-11 21:29                           ` Warner Losh
2020-03-12  0:13                             ` John P. Linderman
2020-03-12  0:34                               ` Chet Ramey
2020-03-12 12:57                             ` John P. Linderman
2020-03-12 19:24                               ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-03-08  9:51             ` Michael Kjörling
2020-03-05  4:57 Doug McIlroy
2020-03-05 22:17 ` Diomidis Spinellis
2020-03-10 16:15 Doug McIlroy
2020-03-10 17:38 ` Dan Cross
2020-03-10 17:44   ` Bakul Shah
2020-03-10 18:09     ` Dan Cross
2020-03-10 18:42 Doug McIlroy
2020-03-10 19:38 ` Dan Cross
2020-03-13 10:45 Dave Horsfall
2020-03-14  4:35 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-03-14 19:52   ` John P. Linderman
2020-03-14 20:25     ` Steffen Nurpmeso

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