From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RDNS_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 8330 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2020 02:59:40 -0000 Received-SPF: pass (minnie.tuhs.org: domain of minnie.tuhs.org designates 45.79.103.53 as permitted sender) receiver=inbox.vuxu.org; client-ip=45.79.103.53 envelope-from= Received: from unknown (HELO minnie.tuhs.org) (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2020 02:59:40 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B70A49D747; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 12:59:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BD39D732; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 12:59:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A9AD09D732; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 12:58:59 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 790 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 12:58:59 AEST Received: from h1.fbrelay.privateemail.com (h1.fbrelay.privateemail.com [131.153.2.42]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BC8A9BC0F for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 12:58:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: from MTA-06-4.privateemail.com (mta-06.privateemail.com [68.65.122.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h1.fbrelay.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A1C180639 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2020 22:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MTA-06.privateemail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by MTA-06.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513E86003F; Sun, 15 Mar 2020 22:45:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.20.151.221]) by MTA-06.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 758776003D; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 02:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 19:45:42 -0700 From: Anthony Martin To: Warner Losh Message-ID: <20200316023637.GA121220@alice> References: <202003132331.02DNVaxN061501@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <0538034f-98cb-1063-b94d-e7b77b548d6d@gmail.com> <20200315221453.GG26660@mcvoy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: [TUHS] The most surprising Unix programs X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Warner Losh once said: > Well, to be fair, we did eliminate the trip up to userland and back down > and did the bulk crypto in the kernel... We did do the session > negotiation in userland though, but once that was done, the rest was done > in-line in the kernel... Plan 9 has had the SSL record layer and bulk crypto in the kernel for almost 25 years. Just sayin'. ☺ Cheers, Anthony